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    I've read and observed on this site that most Greeks are classified as Alpine Med, Atlanto Med, Pontid and Dinarid. Not sure the difference between Pontid and Atlanto Med. Coon suggested that Greeks are predominantly Atlanto Med and Alpine Med.
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    Pontids in Statues :


















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    Pontids except maybe 8th picture which could be dinarid-pontid mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleenex View Post
    I've read and observed on this site that most Greeks are classified as Alpine Med, Atlanto Med, Pontid and Dinarid. Not sure the difference between Pontid and Atlanto Med. Coon suggested that Greeks are predominantly Atlanto Med and Alpine Med.
    Pontid phenotype in almost 95% of the Greeks or even more.

    Even in AlpineMed classification in reallity is Alpine-Pontid
    In Dinaromed classification is also Dinarid-Pontid

    And this because the only Med type in Greece is the Pontid med.
    Atlantomed and Gracile med are West Med types while Pontid is the east med type

    Orientalids are not part of Mediteranean race

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptolemy View Post
    Pontids except maybe 8th picture which could be dinarid-pontid mix.
    Yes , all statues are Pontids and DinaroPontids . Also exist few Alpine-Pontids , 100% Alpines and few Alpine-Pontid-Dinarid mixes

    But actually is these 3 phenotypes that can be found mixed or alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleenex View Post
    I've read and observed on this site that most Greeks are classified as Alpine Med, Atlanto Med, Pontid and Dinarid. Not sure the difference between Pontid and Atlanto Med. Coon suggested that Greeks are predominantly Atlanto Med and Alpine Med.

    What frustrates me is when people call an Italian or Iberian "Atlanto-Med' but if the person was Greek they become "Pontid". Is there any difference between the two types? hardly, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What frustrates me is when people call an Italian or Iberian "Atlanto-Med' but if the person was Greek they become "Pontid". Is there any difference between the two types? hardly, in my view.
    I thought "Pontid" was just another name for a Balkan/Eastern version of Atlanto-Med.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What frustrates me is when people call an Italian or Iberian "Atlanto-Med' but if the person was Greek they become "Pontid". Is there any difference between the two types? hardly, in my view.
    Pontid is more hypsicephalic, mesocephalic and have far spaced placed eyes and taller

    actually are almost the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptolemy View Post
    Is this Greek Dinarid? or some mix?

    He is from Macedonia (by ancestry)

    Dinaric phenotypes in Greece are mostly Alpine-Dinaric"particular common in Epiros" and Dinaro-Meds
    "more in South Greece,Islands and Cyprus".

    Pure Dinarid types are rare.

    The type you have posted might likely resemble an Alpine Dinaric such as which is common in Epiros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Dinaric phenotypes in Greece are mostly Alpine-Dinaric"particular common in Epiros" and Dinaro-Meds
    "more in South Greece,Islands and Cyprus".

    Pure Dinarid types are rare.

    The type you have posted might likely resemble an Alpine Dinaric such as which is common in Epiros.

    Very rare actually ,and most of them have a part Pontid mix

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