Does European Identity or Unity Exist?

[Stotnik369]

No.

In fact, there are 2-3 civilizations in Europe:

- Western - all Catholic and Protestant countries
- Orthodox (the Balkans and former USSR without the Baltic countries)
- some Muslim pockets (Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, Western Macedonia...)

[Stotnik369]

Yes, all Europeans (or nearly all) are part of a superior civilization that needs to be defended from the foreign orc-like hordes.

As a Croat, I don't have anything to do with serbs, russians, greeks, bulgarians, romanians, Ukrainians (except the Western ones), albanians, montenegrins, macedonians etc.
They're absolutely different (especially in cultural terms) from Western, Central and Northern Europeans.

[Nurzat]

What you dont understand, a. educated guy from Norway which comes from a developed country, his ancestors fought for, has no desire to share a nation with a underdevoloped nation like for example moldova.

We are tribes in Europe and thats a good thing, and we need our borders, our laws and our capabilities to put in use for technical and other advantes for our own people and nation.

that is a valid point as well, no one is right or wrong, it is all about how people want to live, in what type of community, so people should be able to choose, even deeper than national level, at regional level

[catgeorge]

I identify as Greek first.. everything else is just a made up fake ethnicity to appease woke politicians.

I identify more with Greek people than the Greek state.

[Ford]

Aside from diplomacy, there is minimal to no unity or common identity.

[Ford]

As a Croat, I don't have anything to do with serbs, russians, greeks, bulgarians, romanians, Ukrainians (except the Western ones), albanians, montenegrins, macedonians etc.
They're absolutely different (especially in cultural terms) from Western, Central and Northern Europeans.

You think you have more in common with Scandinavians than Balkanites ?

[Crn Volk]

As a Croat, I don't have anything to do with serbs, russians, greeks, bulgarians, romanians, Ukrainians (except the Western ones), albanians, montenegrins, macedonians etc.
They're absolutely different (especially in cultural terms) from Western, Central and Northern Europeans.

Anything? I'm sure you understand Serbs and other ex-Yugos just fine, maybe even a little Bulgarian...

[Stotnik369]

Anything? I'm sure you understand Serbs and other ex-Yugos just fine, maybe even a little Bulgarian...

I understand eg. russian quite much, but mine and russian mindsets are two universes apart.

[SouthDutch7991]

Are we all too different to be considered just one thing? Yes.
Are we more similar to each other than to anyone else, to the point that you can define someone or something as "european" or "non-european" culturally and genetically? Yes.

With the exception of some minor diaspora along the natural borders, Europe is, relative to other groups, a very tight and well-defined geographical genetic-cluster.

[Stotnik369]

Are we more similar to each other than to anyone else, to the point that you can define someone or something as "european" or "non-european" culturally and genetically?

Only without eastern ''christians'' (serbs, greeks, russians, romanians, bulgarians...).