Classify Angela Cavagna (Italian showgirl, model, TV personality)

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Most Sardinians look Mediterranean, no? You guys are like the most Mediterranean population in Europe by any single aspect.

According to Mens Sarda Nordicista, true Sardinians do not have dark skin, the dark ones are only from the south of Sardinia and are the result of mixing with different peoples.

[8888]

According to Mens Sarda Nordicista, true Sardinians do not have dark skin, the dark ones are only from the south of Sardinia and are the result of mixing with different peoples.

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Genetics says otherwise. Sardinians are probably the most ''pure'' and isolated population in Europe, maybe in the world.

[Mens-Sarda]

Most Sardinians look Mediterranean, no? You guys are like the most Mediterranean population in Europe by any single aspect.

According to strangers. In reality I've never seen one so dark as the grandfather of Angela Cavagna. It's a fact that in southern half of Sardinia the mediterranean look is more widespread than in the mountainous regions or in the north.

[MinervaItalica]

According to Mens Sarda Nordicista, true Sardinians do not have dark skin, the dark ones are only from the south of Sardinia and are the result of mixing with different peoples.

Which doesn't make sense because being med doesn't necessary mean to have "dark skin complexion" or dark hair/eyes.
Many meds are quite fair skinned.

OP isn't dark skinned at all, in some pic she is quite fair. Probably she's tanned.

[Mens-Sarda]

We were talking about the stereotypical Mediterranean/olive skinned people like Angela Cavagna and her grandfather that is not so common. It's an historical fact that south Sardinia with the gulf of Cagliari have always been the door of the island, bringing here peoples from the Aegean/Anatolian area (like the Sea Peoples), probably those carrying G Haplogroup (about 15-20% of actual population); while before them there was another people with cultural connections with western european regions like Iberia and southern France (as extablished by archeological findings), probably they were those with I Haplogroup (35-40% of actual population), this could explain why many Sardinians have a sort of Iberian-like aspect, and why in Sardinian language and toponyms there are traces of a Basque-like substratum.
It's also a fact that south Sardinia, in particular Cagliari was a Phoenician/Carthaginian stronghold for 700 years. (Phoenician language was still spoken in south Sardinia 400 years after Carthage destruction). This may explain why down there the mediterranean type in more common than in other areas of the island.

[8888]

We were talking about the stereotypical Mediterranean/olive skinned people like Angela Cavagna and her grandfather that is not so common. It's an historical fact that south Sardinia with the gulf of Cagliari have always been the door of the island, bringing here peoples from the Aegean/Anatolian area (like the Sea Peoples), probably those carrying G Haplogroup (about 15-20% of actual population); while before them there was another people with cultural connections with western european regions like Iberia and southern France (as extablished by archeological findings), probably they were those with I Haplogroup (35-40% of actual population), this could explain why many Sardinians have a sort of Iberian-like aspect, and why in Sardinian language and toponyms there are traces of a Basque-like substratum.
It's also a fact that south Sardinia, in particular Cagliari was a Phoenician/Carthaginian stronghold for 700 years. (Phoenician language was still spoken in south Sardinia 400 years after Carthage destruction). This may explain why down there the mediterranean type in more common than in other areas of the island.

Phoenicians, Iberians or North Africans left no trace in Sardinia, at least not genetically. Maybe culturally.
Sardinians are pretty much homogeneous genetically, with the ones from the south scoring similar to the ones from the north.

Sardinians are close to Iberians, yeah, but at really great distances. What makes Sardinians close to Iberians is that Sardinians are basically a fully EEF population and any population with high West Med (including North Africans) will be close to Sardinians.

EEF is basically ENF + some small amount of WHG.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Phoenicians, Iberians or North Africans left no trace in Sardinia, at least not genetically. Maybe culturally.
Sardinians are pretty much homogeneous genetically, with the ones from the south scoring similar to the ones from the north.

Sardinians are close to Iberians, yeah, but at really great distances. What makes Sardinians close to Iberians is that Sardinians are basically a fully EEF population and any population with high West Med (including North Africans) will be close to Sardinians.

EEF is basically ENF + some small amount of WHG.

People from the Eastern Mediterranean have left nothing in Sardinians' DNA and aplogroup G is carried by 5000-3000 BC Neolithic individuals from Spain, Germany, Italy (Ötzi for example). However it's useless to try to convince Mens-Sarda, he will always remain for his weird ideas. I don't think that the various Pisans, Genoese, Aragonese and Spanish have influenced the DNA, so why should the Phoenicians have done it? In the far north of Sardinia they even speak a dialect of foreign origin (Tuscan-Corsican), but I would never say that there people look completely different or more "Mediterranean".

[Odin]

Dinaro-Berid.

[TrevorXdX]

Atlanto Mediterranid + Dinarid + Berid