What means ''genetically Mesopotamian'' ?

[Aren]

has anyone seen their gedmatch results ?

Close to Assyrians and Eastern Mizrahi Jews(Kurdish, Iranian, Iraqi and Azeri Jews). They speak Eastern Aramaic just like us Assyrians, though their language(Neo-Mandaic) is much closer to Babylonian Aramaic.

Mesopotamian admix I think is used sometimes for the ancient people of Mesopotamia before the Semites arrived, like the Hurrians and especially Sumerians. We obviously don't have aDNA of these people yet but I think Hurrians were close to the samples from Bronze Age Armenia(Kura Axes) whilst Sumerians were probably some kind of Iran_N + Levant/Anatolian mix.

[Methuselah]

Close to Assyrians and Eastern Mizrahi Jews(Kurdish, Iranian, Iraqi and Azeri Jews). They speak Eastern Aramaic just like us Assyrians, though their language(Neo-Mandaic) is much closer to Babylonian Aramaic.

Mesopotamian admix I think is used sometimes for the ancient people of Mesopotamia before the Semites arrived, like the Hurrians and especially Sumerians. We obviously don't have aDNA of these people yet but I think Hurrians were close to the samples from Bronze Age Armenia(Kura Axes) whilst Sumerians were probably some kind of Iran_N + Levant/Anatolian mix.

Are they close to Armenians and Georgians too? Or just some Azeri?

[Marmara]

Hulagu Khan killed most of Mesopotamia's original inhabitants. I believe they were replaced by people with genes more similar to Gulf Arabs, as the desert Bedouins were mostly spared because they did not live in urban setting, only later coming to the big cities for work.

Iraqi Arabs do have genetic links to Bedouins. That's why they are considerably shorter and darker. Kurds and Assyrians would be proper Mesopotamians.

[Jana]

Are Armenians more Anatolian or Mesopotamian ? is there a difference ?

I know they aren't proper Caucasians.

[Aren]

Are they close to Armenians and Georgians too? Or some Azeri?

Western Armenians yes, other Armenians less so. Georgians and Azeris are quite further away. We(both us and Mandeans) are closer to Jews who lived in modern day Iraq, Iran and Georgia than to Armenians. It's not surprising as all these Jews claim to be descendants of Assyrian/Babylonian exiles and converts.

[Jana]

Close to Assyrians and Eastern Mizrahi Jews(Kurdish, Iranian, Iraqi and Azeri Jews). They speak Eastern Aramaic just like us Assyrians, though their language(Neo-Mandaic) is much closer to Babylonian Aramaic.

Mesopotamian admix I think is used sometimes for the ancient people of Mesopotamia before the Semites arrived, like the Hurrians and especially Sumerians. We obviously don't have aDNA of these people yet but I think Hurrians were close to the samples from Bronze Age Armenia(Kura Axes) whilst Sumerians were probably some kind of Iran_N + Levant/Anatolian mix.

will we ever get Hurrian or Sumerian samples ?

[Aren]

will we ever get Hurrian or Sumerian samples ?

Considering the political situation in Syria and Iraq nowadays I doubt it.

[Jana]

Considering the political situation in Syria and Iraq nowadays I doubt it.

[Marmara]

Are Armenians more Anatolian or Mesopotamian ? is there a difference ?

I know they aren't proper Caucasians.

Armenians are genetically not that close to Mesopotamia. They are rather close to Caucasia. Azerbaijanis on the other hand are closer.

There is more than 10 genetic distance between Armenians and Kurds despite living next to each other for a long time.

Actually Kurds and Assyrians also have quite a bit genetic distance.

[Kivan]

Iraqi Arabs do have genetic links to Bedouins. That's why they are considerably shorter and darker. Kurds and Assyrians would be proper Mesopotamians.

Armenians are genetically not that close to Mesopotamia. They are rather close to Caucasia. Azerbaijanis on the other hand are closer.

There is more than 10 genetic distance between Armenians and Kurds despite living next to each other for a long time.

Actually Kurds and Assyrians also have quite a bit genetic distance.

Where did you pulled that information out? This PCA plot says Armenians are close to Assyrians:


North-Caucasians are close to each other and Armenians are not actual Caucasians. Georgians would be a half-way between Armenians and NC. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.