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Thread: Turks R1a is Mongoloids, extraordinary evidence yet again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    That's a Western Hunter Gatherer, not R1a or R1b.

    Also, he probably wasn't this dark. His skin is black in this reconstruction.
    Whats his Y dna than?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    Whats his Y dna than?
    Probably I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominicanese View Post
    i have R1

    i thought it was aryan
    Its gypsy = aryan.
    Found in India and Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    Its gypsy = aryan.
    Found in India and Pakistan
    Gypsies have 30% of R1a

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    Gypsies have 30% of R1a
    Are you telling me Turks are Alis, Ching Chongs, and Indo-Aryans (Hindus) combined in one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uniprix View Post
    Are you telling me Turks are Alis, Ching Chongs, and Indo-Aryans (Hindus) combined in one?
    Turks origins are complicated but I wish never Turks never existed, all they in history was invade and conquer.

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    What does Turks have to say now ? you keep making propaganda youtube videos of R1a being Turkic but how can that be if R1a in Turkic are Mongoloids ?????

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    The overall frequency of haplogroup R1a1a in the Tuvinian gene pool is lower than 12% and there are other West Eurasian haplogroups such as I1, I2a1, J*, J2*, J2a1b1, and R1b* in the Tuvinian population. Comparing R1a1a frequencies alone cannot explain how the Tuvinians look like anthropologically and Haplogroup Q1a3 (M346) may play a bigger part, which was found at 25.6% in the East and 8.3% in the West (Kharkov et al. 2013). The more Caucasoid-looking population in the western parts of Tuva have less Asian admixture and haplogroup Q is the predominant Y-DNA haplogroup among native peoples of Central Asia and Northern Siberia.

    Haplogroup Q1a3 was found in 14% of all Tuvinian
    specimens. This haplogroup was detected with the
    highest frequency in the eastern samples (25%), while
    it was absent in the samples from the south of the
    republic. Q1a3 demonstrated the east–west gradient
    of decreasing frequencies. The highest for Tuvinians
    frequency of haplogroup Q1a3, observed in mountain
    taiga and southeastern regions, as well as in Todja,
    probably results from geographic inaccessibility of
    these regions and, as a consequence, from relative
    genetic isolation of local populations. Under these
    conditions, in the gene pool of the Tuva population, the
    highest proportion of ancient component was preserved.
    Alternatively, this situation can be associated with the fact
    that the gene pool of Todja Tuvinians was formed with
    more active participation of Kets, who are characterized
    by the high frequency of haplogroup Q1a3.

    The proportion of haplogroup R1a1a in the total
    gene pool of Tuvinians is somewhat lower (12%). This
    lineage is characterized by high frequencies in the
    populations of South Siberia. Furthermore, R1a1a
    dominates in Altaians, constituting 60% [10].
    Interestingly, in western Truvinian sample,
    the frequency of haplogroup R1a1a was considerably
    lower than in the central sample. Based on the close
    ness of the Altai, which is populated by the represen
    tatives of a more Caucasoid SouthSiberian racial
    type, it would be reasonable to expect the west–east
    decrease of the R1a1a frequency on the territory of
    Tuva. However, this was not observed, and the change
    of the haplogroup frequency was rather the opposite,
    as the eastern samples demonstrated maximum fre
    quency of this haplogroup. At the first glance, the
    result obtained is paradoxical. Specifically, in terms of
    anthropology, the most Caucasoid population of the
    western parts of Tuva displays the minimum of haplo
    group R1a1a, while in the most Mongoloid population
    of Todja, the maximum of this haplogroup is observed.

    In Tuvinians, single samples of the other seven west
    Eurasian (Caucasoid) haplogroups were observed (E,
    I1, I2a1, J*, J2*, J2a1b1, and R1b*). Thus, in Tuvin
    ians, the Caucasoid component is rather diverse, and
    probably has east European, as well as Central Asian
    origin. The five geographical groups of Tuivinians
    demonstrated no statistically significant differences in
    the summarized frequencies of west Eurasian haplo
    groups, which can be associated with the antiquity of
    the distribution of the Caucasoid population over the
    territory of formation of the Tuvinian gene pool.

    http://www.medgenetics.ru/UserFile/F...244-Y-Tuva.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    R1a wasn't Turkic, it was white Aryan originally.
    I would really call it "white" since such terms is based on political or cultural grounds. I would say that it's a Caucasoid genetic marker from central Asia since the clade that Turks that carry is Z-93 which is not the same as those found among Slavs and other Europeans. Hell, the Jewish Levites and the Shammari Arab bedouins, who are neither Aryans or Whites, carry over 40% of such markers which is indeed of central asian origins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    I would really call it "white" since such terms is based on political or cultural grounds. I would say that it's a Caucasoid genetic marker from central Asia since the clade that Turks that carry is Z-93 which is not the same as those found among Slavs and other Europeans. Hell, the Jewish Levites and the Shammari Arab bedouins, who are neither Aryans or Whites, carry over 40% of such markers which is indeed of central asian origins.
    Do you mean you wouldn't call it white? Modern carriers of Z-93 are non-white however the originally carriers were white, extremely white actually.

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results

    These people were the original Z93 carriers, they mixed with neolithic Asians and lost their whiteness.

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