Did the Armenian genocide actually happen?

[Luca]

Did it?

that is what I ask you guys.

[Suinthila]

that is what I ask you guys.

I must know. I have no clue.

[Tong]

yeah. all evidence points to it

[Cristiano viejo]

We have a confirmation from a distant Spain that it happened.

Now that viejo has confrimed we can move on.

Spaniards posses a great knowledge on Balkan/Anatolian subjects.

You are not the most indicated person to talk about history, sorry.

[Odin]

[Gold-Shekel]

Hard one, on one hand Armenians got massacred and on the other many people ignore that European Muslims got exterminated and expelled or they use the Armenian thing to justify killing Muslims. It's hard really, it wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't instrumentalized.

Also, it seems like making this an essential thing is holding Armenia back, which serves the interest of Russia. That along with the Nagorno Karabag issue makes Armenia Russia's puppet.

[oszkar07]

Hard one, on one hand Armenians got massacred and on the other many people ignore that European Muslims got exterminated and expelled or they use the Armenian thing to justify killing Muslims. It's hard really, it wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't instrumentalized.

Also, it seems like making this an essential thing is holding Armenia back, which serves the interest of Russia. That along with the Nagorno Karabag issue makes Armenia Russia's puppet.

Yeh they were expelled from the Balkans before 1915 and ended up as poor refugee's in Turkey.
Another reason why the Armenians as a Christian Orthodox people in the region were not too popular.

Whilst I believe it was a Genocide and without speaking on behalf of the Armenians but rather in my oppinion I agree the continued bad -hostile relations between Armenia and her neighbours is an obstacle for Armenia. Building better relationships would be good but cant pretend this would be an easy or unchallenging process.

[frdfgcg]

Spoken like a true turk

As another Armenian here said, I am not Russian because Russians do not deny The Armenian genocide. He's right. Russians do not deny genocide simply because they do not know about it or they do not care about it. This is the case of the Armenians and the Turks, the Russians do not care about your fights. There's another thing. Most people in the world don't have critical thinking, they are stupid and uneducated. They believe whatever crap they're told on TV, in school, in College, and so on. They believe in the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, the ZOG, the Jewish conspiracy, the massons, UFOs, the Bigfoot and all that. You see here one guy post video National Geographic. He learns history on TV. I prefer to believe the facts, my eyes and the truth. The truth is that the Armenian genocide is a big lie. In fact all the information is on the Internet what really happened. All this information is documented. Summarily. The Armenians with the support of Russia raised rebellion in the rear of the Turkish army. Simply put, they opened a second front against Turkey. Some Armenians were killed during the response of the Turkish army and during their deportation from the rear of the Turkish army. But where did the figure of 1.5 million? Nobody knows about this. Even the Armenians themselves are unable to explain it. About why I don't believe Armenians. I live in Russia, I have reason not to trust you, as well as the rest of the Caucasian peoples. I know the Caucasian mentality too well. These are notes of a Russian officer of the Russian army. An army that was an ally of the Armenians. Just read what the Russian officer writes about Armenians.
https://nomoderor.mirtesen.ru/blog/4...usskogo-ofitse
He is also probably a Turk right?

[Pahli]

The thing with the Armenian-Assyrian-Pontic genocide is that ancient settlements and lands were lost and people have no ties their former land whatsoever since they weren't allowed to return. Turkey(and NW Iran) is almost completely empty of Assyrians, the Hakkari Assyrians were once the most populous of all Assyrians pre 1914.
Not sure about Armenians in Turkey nowadays but I can't imagine their numbers being particularly high.

The Kurdish involvment is underplayed though, I've heard personally from Turkish Kurds who have mentioned several times that they've heard stories from their grandparents of how they participated in the murdering of Hakkari and Mardin Assyrians in hope of claiming their land. I can't imagine having a grandparent that was a straight out mass murderer who was living without consequences like an ordinary person.

Well, you can kinda see the Kurdish "persecution" right after the genocides as karma, the Kurds of Turkey were basically just stupid tools in removing non-Muslim ethnicities, then they became the next ones.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

It happened, unless someone wants to propose that more than one million of Armenians were abducted by aliens.