Y-DNA: Kipchak Håkan is a Dagestani-Chechen

[Proto-Shaman]

L is also found in old Egyin Göl samples, 2300 years ago Xiongnu samples.

And also in a Elite Hun sample in Hungary, 1540–1500 ybp. Can you share the source of Xiongnu samples?

[Jana]

WOW !! Thank you Stearsolina!

No problem

You can find samples data with Y / mt markers in supplementary material > supplementary data 2

I see three YDNA samples ''L'' in under Late Maykop description.

[Ülev]

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Now I know why I always felt so attracted to Chechnya and Dagestan. Lol, my blood whispered to me

start practice Lezginka


popular in Poland also, as you can hear from this video
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lezginka

[Böri]

And also in a Elite Hun sample in Hungary, 1540–1500 ybp. Can you share the source of Xiongnu samples?

Sorry. Remembered wrongly. L-M20 was found in Dolgans from Sakha.
https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.co...medcentral.com

İ had seen I in Egyin göl samples, uncorrectly remembered as L.

[Proto-Shaman]

No problem

You can find samples data with Y / mt markers in supplementary material > supplementary data 2

I see three YDNA samples ''L'' in under Late Maykop description.

I only saw 3 Y-dna samples of "L1a1" under Armenia Chalcolithic/Areni 1. What you mean was > supplementary data 1

The question is what mutations these 3 Maykopian L's had. I hope L1b

If you compare my haplotype L1b-M317 with the Bashkir brother-line R1b-U152, one can see the Kurgan-Maykop connection clearly:




Bashkirs are not only known for their high R1b-U152 %, but also for their R1b-L23 (Z2103/05) %, the biggest living modern Kurgan representatives.

[Proto-Shaman]

Sorry. Remembered wrongly. L-M20 was found in Dolgans from Sakha.
https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.co...medcentral.com

İ had seen I in Egyin göl samples, uncorrectly remembered as L.

I always thought that Dolgans are genetically the oldest Turkic tribe ever. They have a very anormal Y-DNA diversity. They have E-M35, C-M130, F*, I2a, J, L*, N1-M231, O-M175, R*, R1a1*, R1a-M458, R1b-M269. This is by far the most wtf I have ever seen in genetics.

[Nanushka]

I belong to this subcluster of L1b-M317

prediction for: https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-Y16366/



Now I know why I always felt so attracted to Chechnya and Dagestan. Lol, my blood whispered to me

Congrats Hakan

Is this y-DNA subclade mainly found in Daghestan and Chechnya, I have no idea about it tbh. There are so many rumours about the y-DNA subclades in northern Caucasia but mostly they are mutant and transferred there from other regions (esp from the south)

[Nanushka]

start practice Lezginka


popular in Poland also, as you can hear from this video
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lezginka

This is great. I didnt know that it is also popular in Poland, are there people with northern Caucasian origin there?

From a rehearsal of Lezginka, this is how the Avar and Chechen dance:

[Impaler]

I belong to this subcluster of L1b-M317

prediction for: https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-Y16366/



Now I know why I always felt so attracted to Chechnya and Dagestan. Lol, my blood whispered to me

How can I calculate mine as well?

[Ülev]

we have so called Chechen refugees in Poland, those who did not go more west (to Germany etc.)
Mamed Khalidov is a Pole for example