What's the origin of Y-DNA J-M67?

[Jana]

Who the fuck told you that r1b come with turkic warriors?

Nice propaganda troll

Some R1b and R1a is present among Turks, but it is obviously not their original marker.

R1b is native Anatolian, and R1a was absorbed from Indo-Iranian people in Central Asia.

[Livin]

Some R1b and R1a is present among Turks, but it is obviously not their original marker.

R1b is native Anatolian, and R1a was absorbed from Indo-Iranian people in Central Asia.

Correct!!!

R1b can be found also among Pontians.

[Nanushka]

No.

I said haplogroup *J originated in Caucasus, not J2. Caucasian J2 has nothing to do with Arabs, it's completely different subclade.

Of course its different, its mutant, it evolved during centuries

Neither is R1b originally Turkic, especially in Europe.

R1b is definitely Turkic, you can read Anatole Klyosov's recent papers about it, if you havent yet:

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...AHistoryEn.htm

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turk...enealogyEn.htm

History of R1a is still being researched, see Klyosov's words about it here: Klyosov - about R1.PNG.jpg

[Nanushka]

Who the fuck told you that r1b come with turkic warriors?

Nice propaganda troll

I am not trolling, see my reply to Stearsolina, I never speak without evidence. Prof.Klyosov is an academician from Harvard Medical School

Actually I am expecting your sources to see if you are trolling or not

[Dick]

Some R1b and R1a is present among Turks, but it is obviously not their original marker.

R1b is native Anatolian, and R1a was absorbed from Indo-Iranian people in Central Asia.

Yes. Also Germanic R-U106 is downstream from R-L23 which is most commonly found in Anatolia, the Caucasus and the Mediterranean.

Sub-clades
R1b1a1a2a (R-L23)
R-L23* (R1b1a1a2a*) is now most commonly found in Anatolia, the Caucasus and the Mediterranean.

R1b1a1a2a1 (R-L51)
R-L51* (R1b1a1a2a1*) is now concentrated in a geographical cluster centred on southern France and northern Italy.

R1b1a1a2a1a (R-L151)
R-L151 (L151/PF6542, CTS7650/FGC44/PF6544/S1164, L11, L52/PF6541, P310/PF6546/S129, P311/PF6545/S128) also known as R1b1a1a2a1, and its subclades, include most males with R1b in Western Europe.

R1b1a1a2a1a1 (R-U106)
This subclade is defined by the presence of the SNP U106, also known as S21 and M405.[7][48] It appears to represent over 25% of R1b in Europe.[7] In terms of percentage of total population, its epicenter is Friesland, where it makes up 44% of the population.[49] In terms of total population numbers, its epicenter is Central Europe, where it comprises 60% of R1 combined.[49]

[Dick]

I've found recently that my paternal haplogroup is J-M67, and I wonder where it originates from.

23andme is not good at predicting ydna or mtdna subclades. You may be something downstream.

[Wrong]

Correct!!!

R1b can be found also among Pontians.

Yep. R1b-L23 came from the Balkans/Central Europe to your people. Influenced both the Western Europe and Near East.

It is the oldest clade of the living R1b's today.

[Livin]

Yep. R1b-L23 came from the Balkans/Central Europe to your people. Influenced both the Western Europe and Near East.

It is the oldest clade of the living R1b's today.

But i am wondering witch tribe could be in anatolia!!!

Hittites maybe?

[Jana]

But i am wondering witch tribe could be in anatolia!!!

Hittites maybe?

Hittites, Armenians

[Wrong]

Pontic Greeks

The first recorded Greek colony, established on the northern shores of ancient Anatolia, was Sinope on the Black Sea, circa 800 BC.

This is the timeframe where R1b-L23 arrived in the northern Anatolia from Ancient Greeks.