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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkan View Post
    I guess, North Caucasian cluster more with Greeks, Anatolians, Georgians, Bulgarians and Romanians rather than Northern Europeans.
    J2 only peaks more than 50% in North Caucasian people.
    And their MTDna is the same as Europeans especially Nakh people (Chechen and Ingush) that's why they have light hair

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    On the Y-DNA part, obviously North Caucasians are closer to other West Asian populations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dekziiro View Post
    J2 only peaks more than 50% in North Caucasian people.
    And their MTDna is the same as Europeans especially Nakh people (Chechen and Ingush) that's why they have light hair
    I think, light hair mostly depends on autosomal DNA. Not paternal or maternal lineage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggyolk View Post
    Chechen/Ingush

    Caucasian

    Same as me
    same as me (J2a1b* / J-M67). it is found in good numbers also in Ukraine and Austria (over 10%), where I inherit it from.

    Caucasus Hunter Gatherer (CHG), approx 7770 BCE:
    yDNA J2a1h1, mtDNA H13a

    me:
    yDNA J2a1b*, mtDNA H14a

    quite similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aśvārohī View Post
    same as me (J2a1b* / J-M67). it is found in good numbers also in Ukraine and Austria (over 10%), where I inherit it from.

    Caucasus Hunter Gatherer (CHG), approx 7770 BCE:
    yDNA J2a1h1, mtDNA H13a

    me:
    yDNA J2a1b*, mtDNA H14a

    quite similar
    What's your paternal ancestry?

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    Middle east or Caucasus

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    Zagros-caucasus mountain system.
    Oldest examples came from those regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaler View Post
    What's your paternal ancestry?
    my dad's side is fully Ukrainian (Carpathian Rusnak / Rusyn / Hutsul / Ruthenian, they are called different names). except that paternal grandma is part Goral Polish (her mom) and paternal grandpa is most probably part German (our village was a shared German-Ruthenian colony until WW2, after which only the Ruthenians stayed).

    the paternal hg could come from Ukrainians or from Germans by my ancestry, it is found in both groups. this really is a common hg, found in all Central Europe in small to moderate percentage, in Eastern Europe (Black Sea shores all around) and in large percentage in the Eastern Mediterranean (Italy, Greece, Turkey). also in Jews (who probably helped this hg into Central and Eastern Europe) but I never score any Ashkenazi or Red Sea, so it's probably just older.

    this hg is fairly popular in Central Asia too, as East as Uyghurs and it is even found on the western coast of India. it may have entered it with agriculture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buusra View Post
    You are talking about southern Caucasia, not northern, and its quite close to middle east. Also y-DNA haplogroups on their own are no good to identify peoples origin. As a northern Caucasian girl I always match with northern Europeans the most on GEDmatch, after northern Caucasians, and it matters a lot

    J1 among Arabs is not younger but subclades are different, and it is quite natural. I think E1b1b the most common one among arabs now along with J1
    The high peak of nationalism in you causing for stupid comments like saying J2 originated in middle-east from arabs. What about the very high J2a frequencies among Uyghurs and Uzbeks in Xinjang(Turkistan) and Azeri's etc? Also among north-caucasian Turkic people J2a is very high like Balkars and Kumyks. J2a is one of the dominant haplogroup in north-caucasia. Stop talking nonsense and read this first:

    http://www.haplogruplar.com/antik-j2...al-gen-yapisi/

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    In A multistep process for the dispersal of a Y chromosomal lineage in the Mediterranean area, Patrizia Malaspina and colleagues identified "Network 1.2", a group of chromosomes identified by a deletion in the DYS413 locus:

    Chromosomes grouped into network 1.2 are identified by short CA repeats (<=18) in both PCR fragments at DYS413. All chromosomes within this group can be linked to each other in a network by assuming insertion or deletion of a single CA unit in one of the fragments. By the same criterion, they could not be linked to any other chromosome in a sample of 1801 chromosomes (Malaspina et al. 2000) from Western Eurasia and North Africa.

    These chromosomes all belonged to the J2-M172 clade of the Y-chromosome phylogeny, and in the latest phylogenetic revisions, they are now termed as J2a1.

    Intriguingly, Malaspina et al. carried out a microsatellite diversity analysis within Network 1.2, which I have not seen repeated on a regional basis since. The results of this analysis:

    The largest variances, after averaging across the four loci, are found in Continental Greece, Crete and Romania (>0.40),followed by Continental Turkey (0.36) and Italy (0.32). A super-pool consisting of all typed network 1.2 chromosomes from West Asia, except Turkey, produced the low value of 0.31. Considering that the area from which a population spread is generally characterized by a comparatively higher genetic variance than the areas colonized later (Wooding & Ward, 1997; Barbujani, 2000), these data identify the Balkans, Aegean and Anatolia as the possible homeland harbouring the largest variation within network 1.2, with decreasing values both east/south-east and west of it.

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