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    Quote Originally Posted by stat1stical View Post
    False. Chinese aren't seen as superior superhumans here, most despise them no offense to the Chinese guy above. White Americans are mostly stupid and dysgenic, like you Arabs, so obviously compared to them they are quite high up there.

    Indians make up 75% of the employee base at Apple, and other companies. You are so irrelevant it hurts to even argue with some Palestinian about this.

    I have uncles with PhDs in electrical engineeirng, computer science, or physics who are smarter than your entire 1000 person family combined.
    75% is too much.... its around 1/3 ( 2014) … just keep it real..


    One in every 3 Apple engineers is Indian
    https://www.gadgetsnow.com/tech-news...w/39131973.cms

    ''Apple filed 1,750 H-1B applications during the 10-year period 2001 to 2010, but the number increased sharply to 2,800 during 2011-13. US-based HfS Research that compiled the data says the majority of the H-1Bs would be Indians''
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    Quote Originally Posted by stat1stical View Post
    gonna throw your racial kinsmen under the bus like that?

    Vietnamese are still seen as an East Asian type, as are Filipinos, I dont know whats up with Iron Man XL. It's like telling all the Gujaratis (high end businessmen), Punjabis, etc here they should distance themselves from South Indian (Tamils, Telegu) programmers.
    no were different genetically and culturally.. we have zero connections with them. outside of han Chinese displacing the native population of Taiwan.
    ( it just happens that Philippines & rest of Indo-Pacific is next to China)

    blacks/whites/Hispanics/middle easterners can tell filipinos apart from east Asians very very easily..

    if youre around us, you would know right away..

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    also its false... (in east coast)Vietnamese dont own massage parlor with happy endings/escort...they owned nail salons..

    just go to google and type Asian escort & type new York Asian escort, you'll get your answer... ( it ain't Vietnamese thats for sure...)


    https://www2.bing.com/search?q=new+y...4C34986437B59D <--- thats the evidence right there... I wont go any further.


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    NYPD usually just go after the ''pimps'' who exploit the women and traffic women..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindukush View Post
    here are some filipina CEOs doing what they do best, which is eating indian bananas. eating spanish chorizo for 300 years was not enough


    NO... i'm just keeping it real...…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    Boring. Most Indians live in India by a large amount. Same like most Chinese live in China.
    Why measure how tiny minority of them in foreign countries perform? Its almost irrelevant.
    Plus India is sending better people, while China is keeping theirs.
    Just need to compare China vs India in terms of quality, military, iq, gdp, how many people shit in the fields, and rape comparison.

    East Asians and Europeans are way smarter than South Asians.
    india was british colony for 300 years.... 300 something years of british taking their wealth and controlling their destiny..

    china was never a colony. china isolated itself from the west + civil war.... while japan learned and imitated the west & invaded china. communist won over the nationalist.. and they are now in 2018 trying to replace the U.S

    india is also predicted to be 3rd place on planet by 2050 because of its large size.. but the per capita is small. … things dont happen overnight.


    its not a fair comparison, when china has 300 something year advantage over india....

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    before the british came india and arabs always had influence in the indo-pacific.. like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, brunei, myammar... Vietnam was the only country that was fully influence by china...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1R0N M4N XL View Post
    india was british colony for 300 years.... 300 something years of british taking their wealth and controlling their destiny..

    china was never a colony. china isolated itself from the west + civil war.... while japan learned and imitated the west & invaded china. communist won over the nationalist.. and they are now in 2018 trying to replace the U.S

    india is also predicted to be 3rd place on planet by 2050 because of its large size.. but the per capita is small. … things dont happen overnight.


    its not a fair comparison, when china has 300 something year advantage over india....

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    before the british came india and arabs always had influence in the indo-pacific.. like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, brunei, myammar... Vietnam was the only country that was fully influence by china...

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    Its partially true regarding the british control having an impact but it doesn't explain why india lacks in all aspects. Until 1970s-1980s india and china roughly had the same gdp but over the past 30-35 years china lifted itself from dirt poor using their skills to excel in manufacturing sector and communist government, their work ethic, intelligence overall help them in this regard. They even have developed singapore, malaysia so really props to the chinese for that.

    with india yes the british did control but the high level of diversity, lack of unity, and focusing just on services sector has made indian economy quite stagnant. I guess recently it started having higher growth rate compared to china. during demonetization it was slow, but it overcame china's growth rate recently and hopefully will head in the right direction.

    China has many that go abroad from higher class as well but what they do is they come back to china to start their own firm/company after doing undergrad/grad program in a western university so they could implement the acquired knowledge and skills to do something back home. Indians dont do that. Wish they fucking did though. They just go to the west and settle there.

    One thing I need to highlight though is the caste discussion that went around in the previous paged on this thread. Most indians regardless of caste have done it well abroad. Singapore and malaysia have majority tamil migrants who are of low caste origin that went there to do labor work originally but today they rival the chinese kids in academics. Its the same case in UK and Canada where indians come from all backgrounds in those regions. In their respective countries yes chinese are wayy ahead compared to the indians in terms of pretty much...everything lol but in the west both can excel in things like IQ, businesses, etc given the proper resources and environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1R0N M4N XL View Post
    india was british colony for 300 years.... 300 something years of british taking their wealth and controlling their destiny..

    china was never a colony. china isolated itself from the west + civil war.... while japan learned and imitated the west & invaded china. communist won over the nationalist.. and they are now in 2018 trying to replace the U.S

    india is also predicted to be 3rd place on planet by 2050 because of its large size.. but the per capita is small. … things dont happen overnight.


    its not a fair comparison, when china has 300 something year advantage over india....

    -------------

    before the british came india and arabs always had influence in the indo-pacific.. like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, brunei, myammar... Vietnam was the only country that was fully influence by china...

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    China didn't have an advantage over India. There you go again, trying to knock down any credit for Chinese people.

    First of all, India would not be a united country without Britain. Maybe Northern India would be united because of the Mughals, but India as a nation state is largely a British creation.

    Secondly, India as a colony was in relative peace compared to the chaos and destruction China suffered from repeated foreign invasions, not to mention the brutal Japanese occupation and massacres, of course, you're going to deny they ever occurred, even though to do that, you have to deny the Bataan death march too. But I'm sure you will worm your way to somehow justify the denial of the Nanking massacre and Japanese brutality in China, while claiming the stories of their brutality was valid for the rest of Asia.

    After independence, India had a government that had some socialist policies which slowed growth but by and large India was relatively stable compared to Communist China under Mao, who plunged China into several disasters including the Great Leap Forward where people starved to death to the Cultural Revolution where society was turned upside down. During this time, China missed three decades of growth and was in complete chaos.

    In 1978, Deng Xiaoping started to reform China, slowly at first, then reforms accelerated in the 90s. In 1980, it was China that was coming from behind as it was in war and chaos for nearly a century, while India largely existed peacefully.

    If China under Mao had undertaken the same policies that Deng pioneered from the get go in 1949, China would be as developed as Japan today. It's been making up for lost time. What has happened since 1980 is nothing short of a miracle, but of course, you would never acknowledge that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    Its partially true regarding the british control having an impact but it doesn't explain why india lacks in all aspects. Until 1970s-1980s india and china roughly had the same gdp but over the past 30-35 years china lifted itself from dirt poor using their skills to excel in manufacturing sector and communist government, their work ethic, intelligence overall help them in this regard. They even have developed singapore, malaysia so really props to the chinese for that.

    with india yes the british did control but the high level of diversity, lack of unity, and focusing just on services sector has made indian economy quite stagnant. I guess recently it started having higher growth rate compared to china. during demonetization it was slow, but it overcame china's growth rate recently and hopefully will head in the right direction.

    China has many that go abroad from higher class as well but what they do is they come back to china to start their own firm/company after doing undergrad/grad program in a western university so they could implement the acquired knowledge and skills to do something back home. Indians dont do that. Wish they fucking did though. They just go to the west and settle there.

    One thing I need to highlight though is the caste discussion that went around in the previous paged on this thread. Most indians regardless of caste have done it well abroad. Singapore and malaysia have majority tamil migrants who are of low caste origin that went there to do labor work originally but today they rival the chinese kids in academics. Its the same case in UK and Canada where indians come from all backgrounds in those regions. In their respective countries yes chinese are wayy ahead compared to the indians in terms of pretty much...everything lol but in the west both can excel in things like IQ, businesses, etc given the proper resources and environment.
    Singapore is ethic han-chinese.. they modelled their system after the united states.. Malaysia is complicated because the natives want the Chinese out & self deport within 2050.. Singapore was given by the malays for the sake of peace and no bloodshed between the 2 races..

    as for the development of china... china was given access to world trade organization/or world market access led by bill Clinton.. thats when entrepreneurs flock to china to become millionaires/billionaires by selling made in china goods to the united states & globally.. that was the boost china had, that india didnt get ..

    when you referring to I.Q... that means you have to be '' entrepreneur/ pioneer/creator/ engineer etc''.

    after china started getting wealthy with china opening up... thats when they have access to university & research.. the Chinese just started to enter the global trade..

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    on the 1970-1980s... Philippines collapse from 1st world to 3rd world... because dictatorship and chaos that followed it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    China didn't have an advantage over India. There you go again, trying to knock down any credit for Chinese people.

    First of all, India would not be a united country without Britain. Maybe Northern India would be united because of the Mughals, but India as a nation state is largely a British creation.

    Secondly, India as a colony was in relative peace compared to the chaos and destruction China suffered from repeated foreign invasions, not to mention the brutal Japanese occupation and massacres, of course, you're going to deny they ever occurred, even though to do that, you have to deny the Bataan death march too. But I'm sure you will worm your way to somehow justify the denial of the Nanking massacre and Japanese brutality in China, while claiming the stories of their brutality was valid for the rest of Asia.

    After independence, India had a government that had some socialist policies which slowed growth but by and large India was relatively stable compared to Communist China under Mao, who plunged China into several disasters including the Great Leap Forward where people starved to death to the Cultural Revolution where society was turned upside down. During this time, China missed three decades of growth and was in complete chaos.

    In 1978, Deng Xiaoping started to reform China, slowly at first, then reforms accelerated in the 90s. In 1980, it was China that was coming from behind as it was in war and chaos for nearly a century, while India largely existed peacefully.

    If China under Mao had undertaken the same policies that Deng pioneered from the get go in 1949, China would be as developed as Japan today. It's been making up for lost time. What has happened since 1980 is nothing short of a miracle, but of course, you would never acknowledge that.
    I mentioned everything you said already to summarize everything..

    china was never a colony. china isolated itself from the west + civil war.... while japan learned and imitated the west & invaded china. communist won over the nationalist.. and they are now in 2018 trying to replace the U.S

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1R0N M4N XL View Post
    I mentioned everything you said already to summarize everything..
    No, you were talking about China having a 300 years head start which is complete bullshit. In 1980, China was in shambles, because of 100 years of invasions, civil war, Japanese occupation and then the disastrous and chaotic policies of Mao Zedong.

    If China had followed Deng's policies beginning in 1949, it'd be as or more developed than Japan today, on a per capita basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    No, you were talking about China having a 300 years head start which is complete bullshit. In 1980, China was in shambles, because of 100 years of invasions, civil war, Japanese occupation and then the disastrous and chaotic policies of Mao Zedong.

    If China had followed Deng's policies beginning in 1949, it'd be as or more developed than Japan today, on a per capita basis.
    300 years of not being a colony... yes! I call that a head start... it doesnt matter if china was poor in 1980's..

    and no the reason why the world is growing is because of American dominance of the planet... if it was pre ww2 or pre ww1.. china, japan could not get a fair trade globally because Europe controlled colonies all over the world.. doesnt matter if you had flying car you want to sell to mexico…. spain sets the trading rules in Latin-American.

    if china wasn't a colony.. they have to adopt something similar to Japanese … and invade other countries to push out the Europeans and set up its trading block..

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