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    I remember I read that someone once uploaded a gorillas and a chimpanzee samples on Gedmatch and that out of all human populations they came out closest to Africans Pygmies and other sub-saharans at a relatively close distance, and other populations only at a much higher distance. Someone explained this is mostly due to their archaic input. Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haider View Post
    I remember I read that someone once uploaded a gorillas and a chimpanzee samples on Gedmatch and that out of all human populations they came out closest to Africans Pygmies and other sub-saharans at a relatively close distance, and other populations only at a much higher distance. Someone explained this is mostly due to their archaic input. Is this true?
    Sounds exaggerated and probably fake. Also non africans have neanderthal and denisovan admixture which i speculate would pull them farther away from chimps since homosapian would be closer to a chimp than neanderthal and denisovan

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    Humans and non-human apes evolved separately from a common ancestor.

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    That's impossible.

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    "Closest" (and that is disputable since I would believe that all humans at this point are equidistant from non-human primates) does not mean close. Without seeing this with my own eyes I'll chalk it up to racist propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    "Closest" (and that is disputable since I would believe that all humans at this point are equidistant from non-human primates) does not mean close. Without seeing this with my own eyes I'll chalk it up to racist propaganda.
    Here: https://web.archive.org/web/20180108...s-on-GEDMATCH-

    But I think running apes through human genetic tests is a dubious premise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Here: https://web.archive.org/web/20180108...s-on-GEDMATCH-

    But I think running apes through human genetic tests is a dubious premise.

    Humans are apes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Here: https://web.archive.org/web/20180108...s-on-GEDMATCH-

    But I think running apes through human genetic tests is a dubious premise.
    interesting....

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    I will add that on those calculators (which I think are very dubious), they are close only to Khoisan and Pygmies, not to other SSA people who are the ancestors of those of us with ancestry from slavery.

    Those calculators should be taken with a grain of salt when analyzing non-humans, because they are simply grasping to categorize non-human DNA, it does not mean they are a close match at all with whatever comes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I will add that on those calculators (which I think are very dubious), they are close only to Khoisan and Pygmies, not to other SSA people who are the ancestors of those of us with ancestry from slavery.

    Those calculators should be taken with a grain of salt when analyzing non-humans, because they are simply grasping to categorize non-human DNA, it does not mean they are a close match at all with whatever comes up.
    I agree. It's like using a dog, animal or banana the results are going to be not correct. As for the Khosians that because they are quite an ancient people, and same with pygmies. That said it's comical to, like that study about the bonobos being closely related to Africans was misread, when it was not referring to genetics. In general even the most archaic humans are very different apes/monkeys, not to mention that Neanderthals were appearing as SSA's on these calculators. The high IQ individuals at Amren misread the article about bonobo study in a comical fashion.

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