Did the ancient Greeks genocide, or assimilate, the Siculi of Sicily?

[Sikeliot]

They have the highest genetic affinity with Levantines , together with some Greeks out of All populations in Europe.

What is important to note is the Levantine affinity is not part of the ancient core, simply it exists because Sicily, far south Italy, and some Aegean islands received a secondary wave of migration that did not reach mainland Greece nor extend to far north into Italy.

But some people here want to paint it as Neolithic Anatolian migration. They can think whatever they wish.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

They have the highest genetic affinity with Levantines , together with some Greeks out of All populations in Europe.

If I differ from you, it does not mean that I'm descended from the sperm of freed Syrian slaves, dear "Arjana". That of the Levantine slaves is a bullshit invented two centuries ago without any foundation in reality, and as far as I am concerned the Romans took slaves from any part of their empire, not just from the east. Then in the south there were no Roman colonies so strategic and numerous to be filled with slaves from distant areas. Most of the slaves as well as in the various cities were concentrated in Rome which was the heart of the empire. If the people of central Italy do not descend from slaves, why should I do?

People because of their ignorance tend to forget that most of southern Italy was colonised by Illyrian Messapian tribes and Sambrian italic tribes.

You are no less ignorant, you should know in reality that Iapygians were only in Apulia and in a small part of Lucania (where I am originally from), and therefore did not cover the whole south. It's not even completely sure if they came from Illyria. Lol who are the "Sambrians"?

[Tauromachos]

If I differ from you, it does not mean that I'm descended from the sperm of freed Syrian slaves, dear "Arjana". That of the Levantine slaves is a bullshit invented two centuries ago without any foundation in reality, and as far as I am concerned the Romans took slaves from any part of their empire, not just from the east.

The Romans had alot of slaves from the Balkans as well.

The famous Roman slave Spartacus who later revolted against the Romans was a Thracian.

Also alot of native people from Germany and Britain were enslaved by the Romans when they conquered these areas.

[Tacitus]

So why do mainland Greeks fall outside of this cluster then? I mean, I think we know the answer. But clearly there is some post-neolithic Levantine and North African admixture in south Italy and the Aegean islands that is not/was never present on mainland Greece even before the Slavs.

Because mainland Greeks have higher amounts of "Northern" influences, whether it's straight-up Indo-European or it's from the later Slavic migrations. If there was a significant Bronze Age Levantine pulse, the author I quoted would've mentioned it (Boattini et al 2018). Instead he specifically refers to it as Caucasian-like.

North African admixture in southern Italy really would've been only confined to Sicily, and even then it's a relatively low percentage (4.7% per Sazzini et al).

[Tacitus]

The Romans had alot of slaves from the Balkans as well.

The famous Roman slave Spartacus who later revolted against the Romans was a Thracian.

Also alot of native people from Germany and Britain were enslaved by the Romans when they conquered these areas.

Yeah but don't you know that all the Germanic, Gaulish, and Balkan slaves were sent to northern Italy, but the Middle Eastern ones were all shipped to the south? /sarc

[Tauromachos]

Yeah but don't you know that all the Germanic, Gaulish, and Balkan slaves were sent to northern Italy, but the Middle Eastern ones were all shipped to the south? /sarc

No didn't hear about that

I though most slaves were concentrated in Rome.

They needed some Gladiators in the Colosseum to fight the Lions.
I think the robust Balkanoids from Alba highlands would have just done fine for this Job

[Ajeje Brazorf]

What is important to note is the Levantine affinity is not part of the ancient core, simply it exists because Sicily, far south Italy, and some Aegean islands received a secondary wave of migration that did not reach mainland Greece nor extend to far north into Italy.

But some people here want to paint it as Neolithic Anatolian migration. They can think whatever they wish.

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Lol, said by someone who makes 3493520 threads on Sicilians making them pass as Armenoids just because he's himself an Armenoid, very reliable.
Do not worry anyway, ancient DNA from southern Italy will prove you wrong and all 100,000 posts about Sicilians, S. Italians being Europeanized Levantines will be in vain.

[Sikeliot]

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Lol, said by someone who makes 3493520 threads on Sicilians making them pass as Armenoids just because he's himself an Armenoid, very reliable.
Do not worry anyway, ancient DNA from southern Italy will prove you wrong and all 100,000 posts about Sicilians, S. Italians being Europeanized Levantines will be in vain.

So you think the ancient DNA will show significant Near Eastern affinity, then?

[Tauromachos]

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Lol, said by someone who makes 3493520 threads on Sicilians making them pass as Armenoids just because he's himself an Armenoid, very reliable.
Do not worry anyway, ancient DNA from southern Italy will prove you wrong and all 100,000 posts about Sicilians, S. Italians being Europeanized Levantines will be in vain.

Hahaha nevertheless he does not look Armenoid

He has even R1a haplo

He looks realy average Italian
A bit like this guy though less masculin

[catgeorge]

The only regions that were granted semi independence and self governance By law by the Ottoman Empire were Nothern Albanian Highlands, Drenica valley in western Kosovo, Laberia region in southern Albania (including Himara) and north montenegro Highlands.

If you are talking about some mountain regions of Thesally, most of them were Vlachs ( thesaly was called Great wllahia) and they had to pay taxes to Ali Pashe Tepelena for 35 years ( to him and not to the Sultan).

maybe mani region was some how self governed

Not really - the islands for one was largely self ruled.