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    It is an account of a voyage by a Greek traveller to Northern Europe in years 1438-1439:




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    The text is a bit long i will start and do the beginning

    It says:From Laskaros Kananou

    He says he came across alot of places of Europe and that he had passed the coastal lines of the Hyperborean Ocean"Atlantic Ocean".

    This is how it starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    The text is a bit long i will start and do the beginning

    It says:From Laskaros Kananou

    He says he came across alot of places of Europe and that he had passed the coastal lines of the Hyperborean Ocean"Atlantic Ocean".

    This is how it starts.
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    He also wrote that near Lübeck there was a land where people spoke Slavic and it was called Σθλαβουνία (Slavonia). How did he recognize that it was Slavic language? Well, he knew how Slavic languages sound, because he was Greek, and in parts of Greece there also lived Slavic-speakers.

    Indeed, in parts of Holstein and of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern Slavic continued to be used until the 1600s.

    In Hanoverian Wendland (part of Lower Saxony), Polabian language died out in the late 1700s-1800s:

    http://www.sharedlist.org/writing/Th...ny-589/?i=1963

    In Lusatia (divided between Brandenburg and Saxony) you have Sorbs who still speak Slavic today.

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    Extent of Polabian Slavic (in the north) and Sorbian Slavic (in the south) languages during the 1500s:



    In the 1600s the area of Mecklenburgische Seenplatte (in Central Mecklenburg) was still Slavic-speaking:



    After the war of 1618-1648 only Wendland continued to speak Polabian Slavic.

    Wendland & Lusatia (where Sorbs live) suffered very low casualties in that war:


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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schles...eswig-Holstein

    Schleswig (German pronunciation: [ˈʃleːsvɪç]; Danish: Slesvig; South Jutlandic: Sljasvig; archaic English: Sleswick; Low German: Sleswig) is a town in the northeastern part of Schleswig-Holstein, Germany. It is the capital of the Kreis (district) Schleswig-Flensburg. It has a population of about 27,000, the main industries being leather and food processing. It takes its name from the Schlei, an inlet of the Baltic sea at the end of which it sits, and vik or vig which means “bay” in Old Norse and Danish. Schleswig or Slesvig therefore means “bay of the Schlei”.
    Nothing to do with Slavs, all to do with bay of the Schlei

    Sthavounia is just how the guy could pronounce the name. He also names Sweden Souitzia and Copenhagen Koupanava lol which is pretty much how Kopenhavn sounds to a foreigners ear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    It is an account of a voyage by a Greek traveller to Northern Europe in years 1438-1439:



    He says that the locals in Lubeck speak the same language with the Zygiotes in the Peloponesse. The Zygiotes were most probably Gypsies, as cited in various sources, and being too dark in pigmentation, but there is also a possibility that they were Slavs. We shall never know...

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    Tatarslavs invaders being deported to Asia Minor is how the story goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanas Django View Post
    Nothing to do with Slavs, all to do with bay of the Schlei
    How so?

    We know also from other sources that people still spoke Slavic in that region. These are Polabian and Sorbian speaking areas in the early 16th century:

    http://s1.postimg.cc/fyqd5p2mn/Polab...bian_XVI_c.png



    Until 1648 Slavic died out in part of that territory (including Mecklenburgische Seenplatte and that area visited by Kananou), in part due to war losses:



    ^^^
    But it survived in Wendland until the 1800s and in Lusatia (Sorbs - area near Cottbus) until today. Wendland is located between Lüneburg and Havelberg:


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    I've invested so much time to clarify the origin of Slavic presence in both E. Europe and Balkans by looking through various books of Roman and Greek origin, NOTHING!

    At least, Nothing up to 5th - 6th century a.d. which is too late.

    Western Balkans especially is the greatest mystery in the whole Balkan history.

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    DNA samples from Medieval Lübeck - https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ieval-L%FCbeck

    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    He says that the locals in Lubeck speak the same language with the Zygiotes in the Peloponesse. The Zygiotes were most probably Gypsies, as cited in various sources, and being too dark in pigmentation, but there is also a possibility that they were Slavs. We shall never know...
    The Zygiotes were a Slavic tribe, not Gypsies, AFAIK.

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    Bump because nobody was helpful enough to translate the whole thing.

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