Do SlavoMacedonians have right to claim Ancient Greek heritage?

[DarknessWin]

We are ethnic Macedonians, a Slavophone people. Our people across the border mostly identify as Greeks who speak Makedonski. On our side of the border, we identify as Macedonians, who speak Makedonski.
We have fought for an independent Macedonia, you have fought for Macedonia under Greek rule.

Sorry man but you people believe in fake history , there not exist ethnic macedonians.
Macedonians that time under Ottoman Rule called all nationalities lived in Geographical borders of Macedonia
and that nationalities were (Greeks,Bulgarians,Gypsies,Albanians,Turks,Vlachs)

All of them called makedonci and speaked makedonci dialect which was not a language but DIALECT of OTTOMAN MACEDONIA.
That's why it called macedonci because it used from all the nationalities of Geographical Region of Ottoman Macedonia



This is Ottoman Macedonia with her 3 vilayets , under turkish rule and people speaking a made up dialect with words from Greek,Bulgarian,Albanian and Turkish words


This ottoman macedonia and macedonci population have no connection to ancient Greek Kingdom of Ancient Macedonia



This is the true macedonia in the PURPLE color, its in 100% in Greece today and its there where someone can found
ancient macedonian tombs.
Macedonia are the kids of Olumpus as you can see in the map , kids of Hercules

They speaked no macedonci dialect, just Doric Greek




You connected ottoman macedonia and its people of geographical region with the ancient greek kingdom of macedonia .

The war of slavophones (greeks,bulgarians,albanians) it was first against Ottomans for a free Macedonia (geographically)
Later it became a war between Greeks and Bulgarians for control of macedonia region

Now as you can see every nationality in the region called Macedonian geographically , but who can claim ancient macedonian heritage ???

Only the greek macedonians can claim roots from alexander the great

But i can accept people from south Fyrom as assimilated Greek macedonians.
I saw them and they are no different than us , they are not slavs.
Maybe Tito make them brainwashed and we must speak about Greek minority there

Macedonia name would turn against your nationalists , in the end people there would claim greek roots and
the region would be the Cyprus number 2 for Greece

[Tauromachos]

We are ethnic Macedonians, a Slavophone people. Our people across the border mostly identify as Greeks who speak Makedonski. On our side of the border, we identify as Macedonians, who speak Makedonski.
We have fought for an independent Macedonia, you have fought for Macedonia under Greek rule.

The only right to claim any Greek heritage is when you accept that the only region who can claim the name Macedonia must be within the borders
of the Greek state and that your state as long as it is not part of Greece has no right to claim this name at all.

First of all the ancient core land which was called Macedonia and where Alexander and his father Phillip were born is not even within the borders of
your state.

Its fully included within the borders of the current Greek Republic

[DarknessWin]

Baltid - as the name itself indicates - is a Baltic phenotype, not Slavic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balts

If there is a Slavic phenotype, I'm sure it is called Slavid or Slaveroid.

Yeah there is where the slavs came from and had this phenotype along with Nordic and Gorid

[Peterski]

Yeah there is where the slavs came from

Slavs did not come from Baltic lands. They were always more southern-shifted than Balts.

Hint: today Balts are genetically more north-eastern shifted than any Slavic-speaking population (except for Northern Russians who are heavily mixed with Finno-Ugric populations).

In prehistoric times, Proto-Slavs most probably lived to the south or south-west of Balts.

[Tauromachos]

Slavs did not come from Baltic lands. They were always much more southern-shifted than Balts.

Hint: today Balts are genetically more north-eastern shifted than any Slavic-speaking population.

In ancient times, Proto-Slavs most probably lived to the south or to the south-west of Balts.

Whatever
Ancient Macedonians were not Slavs

[DarknessWin]

It's the biggest sell-out in the history of Greece.

There have been some traitors in Greece that have rightfully become persona non grata. This man will go down in history as one of most incompetent leaders in Greece.

He preaches democracy without practicing it himself .. he is one sly motherfucker and Greece needs monarchy now as everyone knows what they are going to get.

bring this man to Greece pronto

https://twitter.com/pavlosgr1

A proper leader with proper backbone, morals and values

No sell out, they accepted connection only to ottoman macedonia and not ancient macedonia.
No use of ancient symbols and stupid claims about Alexander anymore

North Macedonia and macedonian people there just geographical terms

Actually its like to tell us that they are slavs inhabited greek lands.
They give us right to claim the region in the future

Macedonian names there would make Greece after 50 years of something to absorb the region
because they have no history to back up anything

[Peterski]

Whatever
Ancient Macedonians were not Slavs

Yeah they were not.

But Greek tribes always fought each other and were never united politically. So I'm not sure why are you claiming that they cannot claim Greek ancestry unless they join the Republic of Greece? It is like saying that the English cannot claim Anglo-Saxon ancestry unless they join Germany!

[Peterski]

Or that the English cannot claim Celtic ancestry unless they join Ireland!

[DarknessWin]

Slavs did not come from Baltic lands. They were always more southern-shifted than Balts.

Hint: today Balts are genetically more north-eastern shifted than any Slavic-speaking population (except for Northern Russians who are heavily mixed with Finno-Ugric populations).

In prehistoric times, Proto-Slavs most probably lived to the south or south-west of Balts.

I speak no crap and everything i write here i have sources to back it up.
Proto-slavs were Nordic people

South Slavs are natives which speak slavic language, just that

[Tauromachos]

Yeah they were not.

But Greek tribes always fought each other and were never united politically. So I'm not sure why are you claiming that they cannot claim Greek ancestry unless they join the Republic of Greece? It is like saying that the English cannot claim Anglo-Saxon ancestry unless..

You misundertood me

Can they claim partial Ancient Greek ancestry or cultural heritage? Yes

Can they claim the name Macedonia for their independent Republic? No

This is what i basicly meant