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    Default How old would you say are the European ethnicities?

    That is, what length of time have modern ethnic groups been essentially the same people and distinct, primarily genetically + identity/culture wise?

    IMO:

    English: at least 1300 years, since the time of Bede
    Scottish: 1000-1100 years
    Welsh: Antiquity as British, 1500 years as specifically Welsh/Cymric
    Irish: Antiquity, up to 4000 years potentially
    Germans: Antiquity, perhaps 2300 years, after they spread South into Celtic lands.
    Dutch: under 500 years? Maybe a few centuries older as Netherlandish.
    White Americans: 250-300 years (Old Stock), perhaps less than a century for modern White Americans overall.
    White Australians: 100-200 years for Anglo-Celtic white Australians.
    Greeks: Bronze Age, 4-5000 years?

    French is tough to say, but I wouldn't put it back as far as Gallic times, nor as recently as the French revolution.
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    As you reiterated very succinctly, Europeans were more tribal in nature before nationalistic, modern day terms came into fruition. After the dissolution of Empires, Monarchy, eventual collapse of conjoined nation-states; it wasn't until recently European nationalities gained prominence after the rising interest in capitalistic, self-autonomous countries in our globalized economy today that gained momentum during the Industrial Revolution era and onwards.

    General Speaking, I would say between 1000 to 1930 C.E. when European countries formed their nationalities during the formation of their Kingdoms and for others, during the collapse of Empires such as Austria-Hungary, Holy Roman Empire, etc.
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