Who is genetically more different? Siclians and Iberians or British and Iberians?

**~~gixajo~~** · 05-26-2020, 12:51 AM

If antone want to try it, I take samples from the sources of this calculator:

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25modern-scaled.htm

So copy paste:

All sources from British islands: Irish, English, Wells and Scottish.
All sources form Sicilia (I found, only 6)
All sources from Portugal
All sources from Spain, including Canary Islands and Basque Spanish.

**Defcon2** · 05-26-2020, 08:27 AM

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.0552% / 0.02055170
36.6 Spanish_Canarias
25.2 Spanish_Mallorca
20.0 Spanish_Andalucia
7.0 Spanish_Navarra
4.8 Spanish_Aragon
3.6 Irish
2.2 Spanish_Murcia
0.6 Spanish_Valencia

First 300 samples.

Code:

Distance to:	Juan_scaled
0.02812397	Spanish_Extremadura:HG01527
0.02814341	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9
0.02939546	Spanish_Galicia:GAL8
0.03069109	Spanish_Andalucia:AND36
0.03082701	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01500
0.03119362	Portuguese:Portugal8
0.03216631	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal12
0.03223318	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal10
0.03226207	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal13
0.03247699	Spanish_Andalucia:AND10
0.03267708	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01501
0.03290500	Spanish_Galicia:HG01704
0.03294703	Spanish_Valencia:EST093
0.03313840	Spanish_Andalucia:HG01623
0.03361942	Spanish_Valencia:HG01605
0.03375428	Spanish_Mallorca:SLM078
0.03380505	Spanish_Cataluna:HG01761
0.03396093	Spanish_Asturias:Asturias1
0.03443837	Spanish_Cantabria:HG01679
0.03452475	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
0.03456648	Spanish_Andalucia:AND77
0.03491974	Spanish_Andalucia:AND86
0.03496530	Spanish_Andalucia:HG01620
0.03502838	Spanish_Eivissa:GUS199
0.03504822	Spanish_Murcia:HG01699
0.03551705	Spanish_Andalucia:AND84
0.03560561	Spanish_Galicia:GAL48
0.03579214	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01746
0.03585342	Spanish_Baleares:HG01615
0.03587691	Portuguese:Portugal6
0.03603622	Spanish_Alacant:MAS064
0.03613112	Spanish_Menorca:FER054
0.03639849	Spanish_Murcia:HG01697
0.03674412	Spanish_Menorca:GUS007
0.03675421	Spanish_Alacant:NAC135
0.03690909	Spanish_Mallorca:ALE339
0.03706106	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506
0.03706442	Spanish_Andalucia:HG01619
0.03713464	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal3
0.03714118	Spanish_Galicia:GAL71
0.03717930	Spanish_Girona:ROI027
0.03731501	Spanish_Andalucia:AND80
0.03748397	Spanish_Canarias:CAN3
0.03787191	Portuguese:Portugal15
0.03791586	Spanish_Canarias:CAN12
0.03793539	Spanish_Andalucia:AND4
0.03800649	Spanish_Aragon:HG01678
0.03807279	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal7
0.03810973	Spanish_Alacant:CAR257
0.03822202	Spanish_Girona:ROB116
0.03830607	Spanish_Valencia:HG01607
0.03840251	Spanish_Cantabria:HG01513
0.03848341	Spanish_Canarias:CAN4
0.03854078	Spanish_Galicia:GAL11
0.03871967	Spanish_Andalucia:AND2
0.03873658	Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
0.03899525	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal1
0.03903022	Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
0.03918253	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV012_2
0.03918594	Spanish_Andalucia:AND14
0.03931222	Spanish_Murcia:HG01618
0.03938545	Portuguese:Portugal9
0.03938827	Spanish_Canarias:CAN18
0.03940440	Spanish_Canarias:CAN11
0.03952398	Spanish_Canarias:HG01695
0.03962228	Spanish_Galicia:GAL24
0.03968566	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:VID048
0.03983623	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:COM032
0.03986187	Spanish_Eivissa:SER064
0.03988294	Spanish_Canarias:CAN956
0.04012044	Spanish_Pirineu:CAR212
0.04021839	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV011_2
0.04035496	Portuguese:Portugal10
0.04039369	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:BOS029
0.04054613	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA011
0.04055017	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal11
0.04055981	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV010_2
0.04063835	Spanish_Valencia:SOL084
0.04083672	Portuguese:Portugal13
0.04093261	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV009_2
0.04109188	Spanish_Extremadura:HG01509
0.04110817	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01504
0.04117895	Spanish_Andalucia:AND33
0.04126217	Spanish_Valencia:HG01606
0.04130225	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG02238
0.04133727	Spanish_Baleares:HG01625
0.04138119	Spanish_Galicia:GAL35
0.04142223	Spanish_Galicia:GAL74
0.04151081	Spanish_Castello:SAB019
0.04151193	Spanish_Penedes:FER023
0.04154383	Spanish_Eivissa:CAR256
0.04154693	Spanish_Galicia:GAL21
0.04166719	Spanish_Valencia:EST038
0.04166748	Spanish_Pirineu:SER011
0.04186199	Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GUS008
0.04202209	Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
0.04209744	Spanish_Canarias:HG01694
0.04237190	Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:SAB131
0.04240473	Spanish_Andalucia:AND18
0.04241586	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV014_2
0.04246196	Spanish_Lleida:RIC076
0.04264062	Spanish_Galicia:GAL16
0.04264496	Spanish_Navarra:Navarra3
0.04269170	Spanish_Navarra:Navarra1
0.04271106	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FER039
0.04281457	Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029
0.04286150	Spanish_Baleares:HG01613
0.04290215	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL051
0.04295108	Spanish_Girona:MOR061
0.04302488	Portuguese:Portugal3
0.04307269	Spanish_Aragon:HG01675
0.04311770	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV013_2
0.04316338	Spanish_Penedes:GUS029
0.04328103	Spanish_Lleida:GUS036
0.04331531	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR094
0.04362774	Spanish_Galicia:GAL44
0.04363832	Spanish_Girona:BOS011
0.04365027	Portuguese:Portugal12
0.04368843	Spanish_Girona:VID016
0.04372368	Spanish_Cataluna:HG01537
0.04376037	Portuguese:Portugal2
0.04376906	Spanish_Andalucia:AND43
0.04379702	Spanish_Andalucia:AND7
0.04381097	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:COD068
0.04394862	Spanish_Galicia:GAL26
0.04395383	Spanish_Galicia:GAL3
0.04397204	Spanish_Alacant:ALE005
0.04397701	Spanish_Canarias:CAN9
0.04402364	Spanish_Castello:ALB231
0.04405943	Spanish_Castello:PIT001
0.04442770	Spanish_Barcelones:VID014
0.04454958	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ARM005
0.04456617	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MAS016
0.04499870	Spanish_Barcelones:SER015
0.04536510	Spanish_Lleida:FER015
0.04537610	Spanish_Aragon:HG01676
0.04544558	Spanish_Penedes:VID037
0.04546903	Spanish_Valencia:GRA016
0.04551047	Spanish_Lleida:GUS014
0.04551304	Spanish_Valencia:BON076
0.04555820	Spanish_Mallorca:CAL026
0.04567817	Spanish_Mallorca:MEL022
0.04587129	Spanish_Alacant:SLA017
0.04591247	Portuguese:Portugal14
0.04595305	Spanish_Mallorca:SOL053
0.04596124	Spanish_Canarias:CAN884
0.04615094	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha:HG01503
0.04620870	Spanish_Penedes:STC091
0.04655718	Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:SAB009
0.04656069	Spanish_Girona:REI087
0.04665158	Spanish_Mallorca:ROI096
0.04668395	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:SER027
0.04671308	Spanish_Valencia:FER097
0.04682198	Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
0.04756719	Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:RAG111
0.04764125	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:FOR067
0.04781529	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUL190
0.04783134	Spanish_Barcelones:COD147
0.04791965	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:SOL083
0.04794933	Spanish_Navarra:Navarra2
0.04796122	Portuguese:Portugal4
0.04799868	Spanish_Barcelones:GUS119
0.04809873	Spanish_Cantabria:HG01512
0.04816169	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:CAL053
0.04821447	Spanish_Lleida:MST075
0.04829688	Spanish_Murcia:HG01617
0.04836566	Spanish_Menorca:PON058
0.04837650	Spanish_Penedes:SAB014
0.04838340	Spanish_Castello:BOS027
0.04839903	Spanish_Pirineu:SAB137
0.04871554	Spanish_Andalucia:AND75
0.04885757	Spanish_Barcelones:GUS040
0.04886149	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
0.04890380	Spanish_Valencia:ALB126
0.04892419	Spanish_Penedes:SER022
0.04893785	Spanish_Pais_Vasco:HG01518
0.04896175	Spanish_Castello:FER033
0.04915728	Spanish_Lleida:FOR066
0.04928862	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV001_2
0.04942312	Spanish_Alacant:ALE009
0.04954551	Spanish_Lleida:MIQ133
0.04956082	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:RIC106
0.04958534	Spanish_Lleida:ROS005
0.04966090	Spanish_Galicia:GAL25
0.04976454	Spanish_Penedes:BOS015
0.04979763	Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre:GRA020
0.04983797	Spanish_Penedes:ROS025
0.05004097	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID044
0.05004706	Portuguese:Portugal1
0.05010006	Portuguese:Portugal11
0.05016647	Spanish_Girona:ROB127
0.05019890	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV015_2
0.05025284	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:MAS003
0.05035188	Portuguese:Portugal7
0.05055444	Spanish_Castello:CAR023
0.05083100	Spanish_Valencia:BOS010
0.05083592	Spanish_Lleida:FER007
0.05096256	Spanish_Valencia:ALB389
0.05121504	Spanish_Eivissa:EIV004_2
0.05125755	Spanish_Pirineu:FER101
0.05129712	Spanish_Penedes:ROB016
0.05148559	Spanish_Pirineu:CAR016
0.05178443	Spanish_Canarias:CAN19
0.05190167	Spanish_Canarias:CAN1220
0.05191649	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:MOR068
0.05196223	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.05215288	Portuguese:Portugal5
0.05251521	Spanish_Mallorca:MST073
0.05251856	Spanish_Castello:CAR200
0.05257213	Spanish_Mallorca:MAY035
0.05258972	Spanish_Girona:FER052
0.05273544	Spanish_Galicia:GAL15
0.05283769	Spanish_Galicia:HG01685
0.05290375	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:VID057
0.05303875	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROS008
0.05319217	Spanish_Penedes:VID003
0.05322015	Spanish_Girona:DAN072
0.05349813	Spanish_Cataluna:HG01536
0.05375408	Spanish_Canarias:CAN1920
0.05403329	Spanish_Canarias:CAN17
0.05429481	Spanish_Soria:Soria1
0.05447737	Spanish_Canarias:CAN13
0.05448533	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAL107
0.05461137	Spanish_Canarias:CAN10
0.05461925	Spanish_Galicia:HG01686
0.05494602	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR007
0.05517588	Spanish_Canarias:CAN2
0.05531620	Spanish_Andalucia:AND39
0.05594535	Spanish_Mallorca:GRA135
0.05606954	Spanish_Eivissa:GUS203
0.05626831	Spanish_Penedes:ALE088
0.05654656	Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
0.05655284	Spanish_Pais_Vasco:HG01516
0.05681773	Spanish_La_Rioja:La_Rioja1
0.05798509	Spanish_Pais_Vasco:HG01515
0.05956678	Spanish_Soria:Soria2
0.06043188	Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR048
0.06048383	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GRA035
0.06081025	Basque_Spanish:BAS25
0.06201988	Basque_Spanish:BAS27
0.06221039	Spanish_Girona:SER018
0.06236158	Basque_Spanish:BAS33
0.06348891	Basque_Spanish:BAS30
0.06395113	Spanish_Canarias:CAN1
0.06408129	Spanish_Canarias:CAN924
0.06431920	Basque_Spanish:BAS22
0.06530927	Basque_Spanish:BAS28
0.06531612	Sicilian_West:WestSicilian7H
0.06576770	Basque_Spanish:BAS35
0.06610738	Basque_Spanish:BAS31
0.06733138	Basque_Spanish:BAS32
0.06842719	Sicilian_West:WestSicilian10H
0.07547041	Welsh:WalesDR56
0.07557175	Scottish:Scottish23
0.07574030	Sicilian_East:EastSicilian5H
0.07737321	English_Cornwall:HG00235
0.07836861	Sicilian_East:EastSicilian2H
0.07901359	English_Cornwall:HG00236
0.07929238	Welsh:WalesDR84
0.07949998	English:HG01790
0.07951042	Welsh:WalesL40
0.07998079	Sicilian_West:WestSicilian4H
0.08035977	English_Cornwall:HG00261
0.08122145	English:English4
0.08127613	English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.08164512	Scottish:Scottish7
0.08234302	Welsh:WalesBK21
0.08297693	English:HG01791
0.08300762	Welsh:WalesBK68
0.08309647	English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.08323730	Welsh:WalesL42
0.08340731	English_Cornwall:HG00255
0.08345816	Welsh:WalesBK58
0.08390184	Scottish:Scottish10
0.08425064	Irish:Irish32
0.08443840	Welsh:WalesL86
0.08453193	Irish:Irish29
0.08458852	Irish:Irish13
0.08467304	English:England12
0.08477902	Irish:Irish28
0.08482623	Scottish:Scottish14
0.08488639	Welsh:WalesBK54
0.08503243	Irish:Irish45
0.08555352	English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.08563853	Irish:Irish12
0.08572093	Scottish:Scottish11
0.08575954	English:England9
0.08578675	Irish:Irish49
0.08588533	Welsh:WalesL44
0.08608026	English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.08616308	Welsh:WalesBK33
0.08632927	English:English1
0.08648199	English_Cornwall:HG00253
0.08667847	Scottish:Scottish25
0.08672855	Sicilian_East:EastSicilian8H
0.08713692	English:England7
0.08737936	Welsh:WalesDR99
0.08740529	Scottish:Scottish24
0.08758280	Irish:Irish19
0.08764769	Irish:Irish46

Closest sample of each place.

0.02812397 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01527
0.02814341 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal9
0.06531612 Sicilian_West:WestSicilian7H
0.07547041 Welsh:WalesDR56
0.07557175 Scottish:Scottish23
0.07574030 Sicilian_East:EastSicilian5H
0.07737321 English_Cornwall:HG00235
0.07949998 English:HG01790
0.08425064 Irish:Irish32

**Defcon2** · 05-26-2020, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

Spain is a big country and there are some differences between the areas obviously not the big differences that occur in Italy but they are there. I think every country would have some differences if they were split up.

In G25 there is an overrepresentation of the Catalan samples that are divided into many small regions. Basically they have all the variety of the Iberian peninsula, from the more northern shifted to the southern. I am even closer to some French samples than to some Spanish regions (such as Soria or some of Catalunya_Central).