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    Thanks for the quote about Kastrioti. He doesn't claim Albanians to be Macedonians. He actually seems like he doesn't know what he is. If anything, in this quote he is flirting with Greek ancestry if you would ask me. As I mentioned though, Byzantine scholars included Albania into Macedonia at times. Although, it has to be said that most people who are reffered to as Macedonians during the Byzantine era were from Thrace (i.e. Theme of Macedonia). In any case, I won't go further into this.

    However, about Epirus, Byzantine Greek scholars did not have any doubts:

    “…these mountains [the Pindos Mountain-range near Kasto-
    ria] were the limits between the [despotate of] `Old and
    New Epeiros’, and our Hellenic lands.”
    Written in 1196 A.D. by Georgios Akropolitis: `Annales’, Patrologia Graecae, vol.140 col


    Also, an example of a Byzantine Roman, Gregorios Gemistos, speaking of their ethnic origins in 1418:
    “Because we are Hellenes in terms of stock, as our language and ancestral education betray… And also, this land… Hellenes always have been inhabiting…”

    Or

    “Because these words do not come from (the lips of) people who are unwise or ignorant of what is precise and commendable in the language
    of Hellas…”

    Arethas of Kaisaria approx. 900 A.D.

    Also a quote about medieval Thessalonici and Epirus:

    The province of Thessalonica (Saloniki) had, together with Greece, been awarded to the warlike Marquis Boniface of Montferrat with the royal title. It comprised the greater part of ancient Macedonia and Boniface carried his victorious arms into Greece, where he everywhere divided the conquered territories among his knights; but having perished in a skirmish with the Bulgarians, in 1207, his kingdom was invaded by the Greek despot, Theodore of Epirus who was received with open arms by the Greeks, and crowned emperor at Thessalonica in 1222.

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    Looks like the deal will get through...


    https://www.b92.net/eng/news/region....&nav_id=105293

    Macedonia: PM Zaev has "indecent proposal" for opposition
    Macedonian Prime Minister Zoran Zaev urged members of the country's Assembly for "national reconciliation."

    SOURCE: TANJUG MONDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2018 | 13:37

    He has also offered the most influential opposition party, the VMRO-DPMNE, "amnesty."

    Namely, Zaev told the opposition party that if they vote for constitutional changes in accordance with the Prespa Agreement (name deal with Greece that recently failed in a referendum) - they will receive "amnesty for their members who are in trial for unrest at the Assembly that took place on April 27, last year."

    "Now is the moment to forgive. Let's forgive when it is most needed. We all know that the peak of divisions and hatred was on April 27. The bloody images of the deputies (Assembly members) went around the world. Here is a chance for forgiveness. Let's start from April 27. I know that everything has a price. I am ready to pay it. There is no future without forgiveness here in parliament," said Zaev, among other things, as he was addressing deputies on Monday.

    He reiterated that there is "no better agreement than that reached with Greece on the new name of Macedonia and everyone knows it."

    "Let us therefore use today's plenary session as an opportunity for reconciliation between the left and th right in Macedonia after last year's incidents in the legislative house," he said.

    Zaev believes that today's decision, on accepting or rejecting the government's proposal to start constitutional changes involving the change of the constitutional name of Macedonia, is "a historic moment that will be told over and over by future Macedonian generations."

    Zaev called on "all deputies to give each other a hand and accept the start of the constitutional review process in order to ensure Macedonia's Euro-Atlantic integration."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    They've still got Serbia....for now.
    And Bosnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    What do you think about this?

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    I hope Gruevski and fellow VMRO Mafia members to go in prison

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    Quote Originally Posted by ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ View Post
    I hope Gruevski and fellow VMRO Mafia members to go in prison

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    It’s actually those amnestied VMRO members who provided the numbers for the vote. Ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ View Post
    What do you think about this?

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    I’ve stated my position previously in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    It’s actually those amnestied VMRO members who provided the numbers for the vote. Ironic.
    LOL they vote in exchange to no prison .

    Either way, I hope this Agreement will bring stability and prosperity in the region.

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    Why did Kotzias resign? They don't seem to give a clear answer. He orchestrated the deal didn't he?

    It seems that this hot potatoe of the Prespes agreement will go towards Athens now. As much as I have mixed feelings, I think that this VMRO party has used poisonous nationalistic rhetoric for too long. At the expense of its own people and stability in the region.

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