Why are there so many gypsies in Eastern Europe?

[Tauromachos]

Gypsies are everywhere

[Joso]

1.I dont know probably because they were killed and expelled in western europe but not in eastern europe historically. There also gypsies in western europe but they are more mixed and invisible and less then in eastern europe
2.There are more gypsies in Turkey then Romania, there are more Gypsies in Brasil then Romania, there are more Gypsies in USA then Romania.
3.No its unrelated. Roma is the self-designation of Gypsies and means "men" in Roma language. Romania derrives from Rome the capitol of Italy and Roman Empire, because they speak latin language, Its unrelated just sounds similar. Rom is a Indo-Aryan type word and means "men"
4.Some did but were deported, see France, Germany and Brexit etc.
5.Ask the Eastern Euros but probably hate them
6.They are since 1000 years in Europe and since 700 Years in balkan, they left India 1.500 years ago but didnt arrived to Britain until 500 years ago, they gradually moved from India to Western Europe
7.Thats impossible to know, a mainstream theory says they left india because of turanid conquereros and their raids, so war, raids, invaders etc. But impossible to know since there is no written document.

You are welcome.

Thanks for the answer!

[Joso]

1. The Balkans were the first European region they reached so a lot of them simply settled here, and remain here to this day. We're not exactly happy about it.

2. There just are, no real mystery to it. Romania isn't the country with the most gypsies tho.

3. They call themselves "Romani" in their own language, which is part of the Indic branch of IE, but that has nothing to with Romania's name. Romania is called Romania because the Romans conquered it, prior to this it was known as Dacia. Romanians actually really hate the fact that the two ethnonyms sound so similar, so you had better not bring it up in conversation of anything lol. Being compared to a gypsy has pretty negative connotations.

4. They did, there are plenty of them in Spain and France, some in the UK and in the States, too. They're a diasporic people, so that's kinda what they do, travel everywhere. But westerners also deport them every chance they get, afaik.

5. Idk what gyppos think of us, but our feelings towards them range from animosity to just straight-up hatred, and we tend to be pretty unapologetic about it as well. They lie, cheat, steal, don't value education and pop out as many kids as they can for the sole purpose of welfare benefits. I know it sounds harsh, but they just can't integrate well into any European society, I think mostly because they just don't want to. On top of that, westerners often mistake gypsies for actual Eastern Europeans (cause they carry EE passports) and think there's no real difference between us, you can imagine how quickly that gets annoying.

6. As in, how long they've been in Europe? Since around the 12th century, as per genetic evidence. Historical sources don't mention them until the 14th, however.

7. There are several theories about why they left, I suggest reading up on it in your own time if you're interested. Seems they may have originally been low-caste travelling musicians or something of the sort, which would match the stereotype of them being very music-oriented people, or they may have migrated due to military conflicts. Not-so-fun-fact: the term we most often use to refer to them in Eastern Europe is "cigani"(and variations thereof), which is derived from a Greek word meaning "untouchables".

Thanks for the answer!

[peperuda]

Moslems are more culturally different, and have absolutely no desire to assimilate. Send them back to Chewbaccastan or whatever shithole they came from.

I like Gypsies.

Yeah, because organising bride markets where they literally sell their daughters to the highest bidder is not at all culturally different, it's totally European behaviour. Sure.

I know a gypsy whose brother is a pimp in Germany, and the guy just openly admits to it. They have zero shame and zero respect for the law.

We may not be allowed to kick them out, but I have no moral obligation to like them.

[Lek]

Half of them dont though. You hate every gypsy though, even mixed ones.

LMAO. I don't hate gypsies. What makes you think that? Criticising people' activities doesn't mean you hate them. I guess we need to like everything or else we hate it. Noel Malcolm criticised Serbian nationalism, this doesn't mean he hates Serbs when there is legitimacy to such criticism in the first place. But we live in a too much politically correct world.

I just dislike people that beg for money when they could do something else. Even better to sell drugs or rob a bank.

I have seen people with no legs beg for money in Albania.... now this I can understand why... but a healthy young person with all limbs still attached to his body , I cannot understand why.

These beggars are not even poor , they have everything they need and the state even provided them with apartments. They probably get money from state too + begging. If they go as far begging they might as well steal from you, such people are not trustable. They are healthy with no problems but they sit there begging saying 'hello' to every person passing by and smiling. It's like their job or something. Their parents taught them to beg from young age as they have no dignity and not because they are poor or starving.. I know poor people that are non-gypsies that never begged in their life.

How am I supposed to know if it' only half when most beggars I see are gypsies. Some also play music and sell magazines....

[Mortimer]

LMAO. I don't hate gypsies. What makes you think that? Criticising people' activities doesn't mean you hate them. I guess we need to like everything or else we hate it. Noel Malcolm criticised Serbian nationalism, this doesn't mean he hates Serbs when there is legitimacy to such criticism in the first place. But we live in a too much politically correct world.

I just dislike people that beg for money when they could do something else. Even better to sell drugs or rob a bank.

I have seen people with no legs beg for money in Albania.... now this I can understand why... but a healthy young person with all limbs still attached to his body , I cannot understand why.

These beggars are not even poor , they have everything they need and the state even provided them with apartments. They probably get money from state too + begging. If they go as far begging they might as well steal from you, such people are not trustable. They are healthy with no problems but they sit there begging saying 'hello' to every person passing by and smiling. It's like their job or something. Their parents taught them to beg from young age as they have no dignity and not because they are poor or starving.. I know poor people that are non-gypsies that never begged in their life.

How am I supposed to know if it' only half when most beggars I see are gypsies. Some also play music and sell magazines....

Most beggars are Gypsies but not most Gypsies are beggars.

I can tell you so many Gypsies who do a job.

For example this dude is painter. Just one example but my friends list and relatives list is full with them. My cousin studies medicine in the 4th year after 6 years he is doctor.

Dont quote please


And YOU might not hate every gypsy but many do because its obvious when they see gypsie blood as threat to racial and national purity and identity. Having only gypsy blood without even being fully gypsy or doing all this shit you say is enough to be hated.

[Mortimer]

Yeah, because organising bride markets where they literally sell their daughters to the highest bidder is not at all culturally different, it's totally European behaviour. Sure.

I know a gypsy whose brother is a pimp in Germany, and the guy just openly admits to it. They have zero shame and zero respect for the law.

We may not be allowed to kick them out, but I have no moral obligation to like them.

only a tiny minority organises bride markets. I heard of one case among one tribe in bulgaria. I never heard the same among any gypsies I know in Serbia. People are surprised i didnt got arranged marriage etc. But no one in my family ever did not even my great grandparents. let alone they younger generations.

[Tauromachos]

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Younger guy on the left with the violin looks like Bosniensi's brother

[Mortimer]

Younger guy on the left with the violin looks like Bosniensi's brother

I said please dont quote. Did you do that on intention? Will you delete it?

[Tauromachos]

I said please dont quote. Did you do that on intention? Will you delete it?

Ok done

No i didn't do it with intention