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    Quote Originally Posted by giulioimpa View Post
    haha sounds like a Southern italian trying to speak some slavic sounds.

    is he the same that made the Berlusconi Impression on polish tv? i seem to recall something like that
    don't know, but... Silvio ritorna in versione Wi-Fi ---> https://youtu.be/xOPrIW_7UH4

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    Vlochy probably derives from Vlach, the term used by Slavs to refer to Romance speaking peoples, also derived from the Germanic "Welsch".

    Some examples :

    Walachia = land of the Vlachs / Welschen
    Vallonia = same as above
    Wales = same as above


    I wonder if all those Vlach, Welsch, Valloon, are adjectives in some way derived from Latin "Vallum" (wall, border); adjectives used in origin to refer to the peoples living beyond the border (which also spoke Latin).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post




    I wonder if all those Vlach, Welsch, Valloon, are adjectives in some way derived from Latin "Vallum" (wall, border); adjectives used in origin to refer to the peoples living beyond the border (which also spoke Latin).
    That is an interesting hypothesis...
    I always wrongly believed that this root val/wal was more related to gauls than romans.
    Anyway the pattern is pretty clear in toponyms all over periferal parts o the roman empire.



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    The Polish Vlochy has likely the same etymology of Vlach, Wales, Walloon.

    *Walhaz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walhaz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    The Polish Vlochy has likely the same etymology of Vlach, Wales, Walloon.

    *Walhaz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walhaz
    Walhazis a reconstructedProto-Germanicword meaning "foreigner", "stranger", "Roman", "Romance-speaker", or "Celtic-speaker".

    Funny how they grouped together celts and romans

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    Quote Originally Posted by giulioimpa View Post
    Walhazis a reconstructedProto-Germanicword meaning "foreigner", "stranger", "Roman", "Romance-speaker", or "Celtic-speaker".

    Funny how they grouped together celts and romans

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italo-Celtic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percivalle View Post
    I knew of the branch of IE but the fact that they had a same name for both means they were the same language for a while after splitting from IE and before becoming their own thing. And That this splitting is possibly younger than the split to proto germanic.

    Some roman writer said( i don't remember who) they could understand basic cispadanic celtic

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