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    Picture published by the official Twitter account of the Esenyurt municipality of Istanbul.
    Over 25% non-Turkish shopboards composition is against the Turkish standards.
    Removed.



    After removal.

    Last edited by Böri; 06-29-2018 at 09:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Picture published by the official Twitter account of the Esenyurt municipality of Istanbul.
    Over 25% non-Turkish shopboards composition is against the Turkish standards.
    Removed.




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    I wonder why government doesn't allow Kurdish signs, since Kurdish is the most widely spoken language in Turkey after Turkish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post


    Actually Esenyurt Mayor might be in fear of losing votes as people maybe not happy with him with Arabization. So, he takes some steps before local elections which are to be held some months later

    But the standards must be applied all over Turkey and over 25% non-Turkish shopboards composition shouldn't be allowed.

    Fatih and Aksaray areas of Istanbul are completely Arabized. Fatih Mayorship should also start the cleaning.


    Turkey isn't part of the English Commonwealth.... and also not the Arab League...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Only ignorants in Turkey think there is smth holy about Arabic script. In Arab countries, they publish erotic and sex stories using Arabic script. I am sure if you show those texts to some ignorants in Turkey, they would save them as holy scripts. Arabic script is the national script of Arabs and nothing more.
    What about Latin? Latin script is the script of the western world. Iranians and Pakistanis use Arabic script for their own languages. I bet my ass that had they been written in any European language these signs wouldn't have taken down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    I wonder why government doesn't allow Kurdish signs, since Kurdish is the most widely spoken language in Turkey after Turkish.
    Turkish nationalism, that's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    What about Latin? Latin script is the script of the western world. Iranians and Pakistanis use Arabic script for their own languages. I bet my ass that had they been written in any European language these signs wouldn't have taken down.
    Turkey isn't Arab League Member my friend. We use Latin script here. That's how this is and even Erdogan dropped the goal he set some years ago to 'revive Ottoman Turkish with the Arabic alphabet,.
    We aren't Arabs and we are also not Middle Eastern.

    Latin was picked up because that's easier than Arabic script.
    At end of Ottoman empire in 1922 only 2% of women and 11% of men were literate with the Arabic alphabet.
    With shift to Latin script, only in a few decades over half of the population became literate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    I wonder why government doesn't allow Kurdish signs, since Kurdish is the most widely spoken language in Turkey after Turkish.
    Iranic and Iranics aren't considered holy maybe that's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Turkey isn't Arab League Member my friend. We use Latin script here. That's how this is and even Erdogan dropped the goal he set some years ago to 'revive Ottoman Turkish with the Arabic alphabet,.
    We aren't Arabs and we are also not Middle Eastern.

    Latin was picked up because that's easier than Arabic script.
    At end of Ottoman empire in 1922 only 2% of women and 11% of men were literate with the Arabic alphabet.
    With shift to Latin script, only in a few decades over half of the population became literate.



    Iranic and Iranics aren't considered holy maybe that's why.
    Using a script isn't the same as identifying as an Arab. Persians use a Perso-Arabic script, and sure as hell they're not Arabs. Why not ever bother to revive the old Turkic script then? I'm sure people would have find it more reasonable. Oh, what are you guys then? Are you Europeans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    At end of Ottoman empire in 1922 only 2% of women and 11% of men were literate with the Arabic alphabet.
    With shift to Latin script, only in a few decades over half of the population became literate..
    Mustafa Kemal



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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Using a script isn't the same as identifying as an Arab. Persians use a Perso-Arabic script, and sure as hell they're not Arabs. Why not ever bother to revive the old Turkic script then? I'm sure people would have find it more reasonable. Oh, what are you guys then? Are you Europeans?
    I don't have a problem with Iranians and Pakistanians using Arabic script.
    In Turkey, we decided 100 years ago (together with some other Turkic countries and regions like Tatarstan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan etc) that we will drop Arabic script.
    We also decided that Greek and Russian (Cyril) will not be used too.
    Just like Georgian, Chinese and Armenian scripts were Not to be used too
    So nothing personal against the Arabs or not an issue of 'nationalism, or 'racism,

    Latin was picked up by Turkic scholars and intellects as that was easy to learn and make the masses literate, there was no risk of assimilation (Arabs, Greeks, Russians live nearby when no Latin lives anywhere close).

    Who told you Turkic runes aren't revived?
    They are revived in symbolism among the youth and some private lessons where people learn.



    Turkic runes weren't picked as official script because they were long forgotten until the discovery of Orkhon and Yeniseian scripts during the 19th century and so, there was not really a continuous literature over the centuries in between.

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