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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Loki doesn't seem a Nazi to me from what he posts

    But how can you tell anything about anyone here for sure

    Sure there are Nationalsocialists active here but i think this forum has all kinds of people
    alot maybe just trolls and like to make fun of others.

    Don't forget in a forum anyone can pretend to be anything
    He founded the forum as germanic supremacist. He was a germanic supremacist. He posted as regular on Stormfront and Skadi. Maybe he changed but i suspect he is just silent about it now. Well he is in the right to have his political ideology though I dont say he is bad though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHDNM View Post
    Again and again the same stories about the "extermination" of the gypsies...

    It's time to inform you:

    the Gypsy 'extermination' Big Lie debunked




    ill have to read this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    He founded the forum as germanic supremacist. He was a germanic supremacist. He posted as regular on Stormfront and Skadi. Maybe he changed but i suspect he is just silent about it now. Well he is in the right to have his political ideology though I dont say he is bad though.
    I don't know all the history of the forum

    But even if he was in the past

    People can change their views

    He post more about Christianity and things like that now
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    I don't know all the history of the forum

    But even if he was in the past

    People can change their views

    He post more about Christianity and things like that now
    True. Maybe he changed. I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Sure it happened it even happens today on a much smaller scale. But here and there gypsies get killed by paramilitaries who are masked and armed. Sure it happened. Its common sense. The ones who say it didnt add "but unfortunately it didnt, it would be better if it did but it never did". I met a skinhead who said that "it never happened but it should have".
    Nobody denies the fact that gypsies died during the war and not only gysies.

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    There is a problem with the number!

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    "Almost 500,000 murder victims, of which over 20,000 were German Sinti and Roma - that is barbarism on a gigantic scale."

    So, "20,000 were German Sinti and Roma." We have to ask if President Herzog is aware that in the city of Pforzheim, on a single night in the spring of 1945, 17,600 German civilians - mostly women and children - were burned alive in the phosphorus bombing raid carried out by the Allies?[34] Or that 20,000 civilians were similarly murdered in Cologne? Or that hundreds of thousands of other civilians perished in the fire-bombings of Hamburg, Dresden, and hundreds of other German cities, in blatant violation of the Geneva Accords? This was indeed "barbarism on a gigantic scale." Unlike the atrocity stories concocted by Germany's enemies in the two world wars, the atrocities committed against Germans are fully documented. Are the citizens of Pforzheim, Köln, Hamburg, or Dresden demanding Holocaust memorials in Berlin? Would any German politician support such a demand?

    Without a doubt, the Central Council of German Sinti and Roma have a right to promote the interests of German Sinti and Roma, but where do they get the right to represent all the gypsies of Europe?

    Since the number of Sinti and Roma who died during World War II is clearly far below 20,000, why build a memorial in Berlin for this particular subgroup, but not for German victims of far greater atrocities?

    On August 18, 1999, Heinrich Wefing wrote an informative article in Frankfurter Allgemeiner Zeitung article entitled "The Escalation of Memory" about the demands of the gypsy Central Council for a "memorial to the 750,000 Roma and Sinti murdered during the 'Third Reich.'" He pointed out that between 1997 and 1999 the number of gypsy victims magically increased by another 50%, from 500,000 to 750,000. My correcting letter to the editor on the subject was not printed, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHDNM View Post
    Nobody denies the fact that gypsies died during the war and not only gysies.

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    There is a problem with the number!

    From the link:
    Died during the war could mean anything even that they were killed by russians or allied forces or died of a illness. You dont say they were exterminated and targeted by the Germans for genocide. Did it happen or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Died during the war could mean anything even that they were killed by russians or allied forces or died of a illness. You dont say they were exterminated and targeted by the Germans for genocide. Did it happen or not?
    Can you show me one single document that, in your view, proves that Hitler or any other National Socialist ordered and planned the physical extermination of the gypsies?

    Sinti and Roma - Yarns, Legends, and Facts

    Conclusions

    Our study has shown that:

    1. 59 years have now passed since the end of World War II, and in that time no one has come forward with any objective or verifiable documentation supporting the "genocide" alleged to have resulted in the deaths of 500,000 gypsies.

    2. The scientific historian can only conclude that there was no such "genocide." Perhaps the best evidence of this is the number of gypsies alive, well, and living in Europe in the early 1990s: 10.8 million. This is a tenfold increase over their prewar numbers.

    3. The atrocity figures ceaselessly broadcast by the politicians and corporate media cannot possibly be true. They represent a propagandistic amplification of 1,000% in support of unjustified demands for reparations.

    4. No justification for a Berlin memorial exists, and there is no reason to build one.

    5. Politicians have no right to knowingly execute public policy on the basis of false and misleading data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHDNM View Post
    Can you show me one single document that, in your view, proves that Hitler or any other National Socialist ordered and planned the physical extermination of the gypsies?



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    Interview de Robert Faurisson ŕ "Storia Illustrata" (Italie), aoűt 1979, n° 261

    http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/...on-storia.html

    About gypsies:

    Translation:

    In Auschwitz there were internees as well as free workers, convicts for life and internees in time. In the Auschwitz-II or Birkenau camp there was the distressing spectacle of many people unfit for work and languishing on the spot; among them, the Gypsies whom, with some exceptions, the Germans do not seem to have put to work.

    He was born in Auschwitz many gypsy children [52].

    Only, it seems, nomadic Gypsies have been interned. It does not seem that it is for racial reasons, but for reasons of nomadism and "delinquency in power".

    I recall that in France even the resistance fighters have seen the Gypsies with an evil eye and suspect them of espionage, intelligence and black market [53].



    [52] There is mention of these births in the "calendar" of the Hefte von Auschwitz ("Cahiers d'Auschwitz"), published by the State Museum of Oswiecim, especially in notebooks 7 and 8. The Germans held register of all births, including Jewish. They kept records of everything. Each surgical operation, for example, was noted with the name of the internee, his serial number, the object and the result of the operation (in Latin), the date, the signature of the surgeon. At the crematoria, the extraction of a gold tooth from a corpse was the subject of a detailed report (Meldung). This last point, alone, makes the legend of massive massacres with tearing of gold teeth on an almost industrial scale absurd.

    [53] I have personally made a detailed investigation of the summary executions carried out by the resisters in a small region of France; I was surprised to find that the gypsy communities had paid a heavy price in deaths, not because of the Germans but because of the resistance. This survey can not currently be published in France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
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    There is no consensus Vukasin even existed and is most likely an imaginary character of the Serbian Orthodox Chruch based on postwar propaganda testimony of one Jasenovac prisoner dr. Zec. According to Igor Vukić, a Serb and a secretary of Research Society of Jasenovac whose whole family was in Jasenovac and lived after, it is questionable if Brzica even existed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    He posts in all languages. No offense to this forum but i think just because a few non-whites are here doesnt mean its not nazi anymore. I suspect this forum is still nazi. Loki, Thordis etc. are nazis. No offense to Loki I am ok with him despite his nazi views.
    Why would Loki and Thordis be Nazis? You sometimes sound like a typical bot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    He founded the forum as germanic supremacist. He was a germanic supremacist. He posted as regular on Stormfront and Skadi. Maybe he changed but i suspect he is just silent about it now. Well he is in the right to have his political ideology though I dont say he is bad though.
    I am sure you wouldn't mind Asian supremacists, Indian supremacists, Arab supremacists etc. But Germanic supremacists... god forgive. Maybe he is or was a Germanic nationalist or is that in your view the same as Germanic supremacist?

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