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    Turks liked the bellicose nature of Islam as the straightforward conquerors they always were. Turkish culture, though, is more Earthly and the totalitarianism and death cult aspects just aren't that compatable with the Turkish soul. Converting to Islam was a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Your 'brothers in religion' sustain and support you.
    You have backup from them.
    Otherwise, I sincerely believe Turks could do a lot better than Spain.

    But Turks have no support from their 'brothers in religion, pretty much contrary, they try to drag Turks where they are which is position even weaker than where Turkey is now.
    What support? Spain had a Civil War 1936-1939, "our" dictator (Franco) supported Nazi Germany, so after the WWII Spain was isolated, destroyed and without Marshall Plan who helped Western Europe.

    We ALONE had tho rebuild the country and recovered it economically. The recovering was named "The Spanish miracle": Spain from 1959 to 1974 enjoyed the second highest growth rate in the world, only slightly behind Japan.

    Again, I dont understand the comparision. You can only compare two similar countries, with similar geographical size, similar history, similar population size, similar geographical location, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Your 'brothers in religion' sustain and support you.
    You have backup from them.
    Otherwise, I sincerely believe Turks could do a lot better than Spain.

    But Turks have no support from their 'brothers in religion, pretty much contrary, they try to drag Turks where they are which is position even weaker than where Turkey is now.
    What support? Spain had a Civil war 1936-1939, our dictator (Franco) supported Nazi Germany, so after the WWII Spain was isolated, destroyed and without Marshall Plan who helped Western Europe.

    We ALONE had tho rebuild the country and recovered it economically. The recovering was named "The Spanish miracle": Spain from 1959 to 1974 enjoyed the second highest growth rate in the world, only slightly behind Japan.

    Again, I dont understand the comparision. You can only compare two similar countries, with similar geographical size, similar history, similar population size, similar geographical location, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Turks liked the bellicose nature of Islam as the straightforward conquerors they always were. Turkish culture, though, is more Earthly and the totalitarianism and death cult aspects just aren't that compatable with the Turkish soul. Converting to Islam was a mistake.
    I think converting to Islam was a reasonable thing to do.

    There were 2 major civilizations bordering Turks, Muslim and Chinese, so converting to İslam or Buddhism to have access to these civilizations was a smart idea.

    Real problem is what we're facing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autrigón View Post
    What support? Spain had a Civil War 1936-1939, "our" dictator (Franco) supported Nazi Germany, so after the WWII Spain was isolated, destroyed and without Marshall Plan who helped Western Europe.

    We ALONE had tho rebuild the country and recovered it economically. The recovering was named "The Spanish miracle": Spain from 1959 to 1974 enjoyed the second highest growth rate in the world, only slightly behind Japan.

    Again, I dont understand the comparision. You can only compare two similar countries, with similar geographical size, similar history, similar population size, similar geographical location, etc.
    Again,
    If Catholic Nazis and Catholic Fascist Italians were involved in Spanish civil war, that's because they cared for you whom they considered as 'brothers in the civilization and fellow sons of Vatican,... Later all these nations helped Spain rebuild. France too.
    Later they took you inside the EU and gave you funds to rebuild and catch up with the richer brother.

    Or if we go a few centuries back, Spaniards had strong allies in the Med against Ottomans such as Venetians etc.

    Turks vs. Spaniards in a comparison, Turks lose because of this lack of similar level brothers in religion.

    Turks are alone. Not only that, nowadays 'brothers in religion' of Turks try to drag Turks to their even more backward level through Arabization. All happening 'on name of God'

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    Turks must return to Christianity as they were few hundreds years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    I think converting to Islam was a reasonable thing to do.

    There were 2 major civilizations bordering Turks, Muslim and Chinese, so converting to İslam or Buddhism to have access to these civilizations was a smart idea.

    Real problem is what we're facing now.
    We must not forget that back then, the Turks never ever saw any Arab or Arabized population.
    The people who converted Turks were Iranic elements in south central Asia (modern Uzbekistan etc).

    LoL they didn't talk about how Arabs were

    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Turks must return to Christianity as they were few hundreds years ago.
    We were Tengrist before the current situation... Never been Christian.
    Also best of Christianity isn't Orthodoxy, or not even Catholicism but Lutherans

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    Pakistanis celebrating Turkey's doom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Turks must return to Christianity as they were few hundreds years ago.
    Is this a joke?

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    Isn't Turkey the same backwater as other Muslim nations? I'm living in a Muslim nation and it's nowhere near as corrupt as other Muslim countries. Mohammed Ali Pasha would have destroyed the Ottoman empire if the western powers didn't begged him not to do it. Name me a couple of Turkish philosophers and scientists from the Abbasid and Ottoman periods. Persians were civilized which they were responsible in converting your lot to Islam which some Arab historians claim it was a mistake. Go and admit the Armenian genocide was real and give the Kurds their rights. Otherwise, don't hypocritically talk about the backwardness of other countries.

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