Do you believe in the concept of white passing?

[PersianWolfe21]

Hi sorry for bumping an old thread but I figure that its an interesting discussion and there doesn't seem to be much activity on this forum imo.

I think it depends on how someone might define the 'white' in white-passing. If they mean white as in Caucasian, then non-European Caucasians can't pass as white because they are actually white (if that's the definition to be used).

If one means 'white' as in European, it makes things confusing because not all ethnic Europeans are Caucasians. Up until the 1900s, the Hungarians and Finns were considered to be part of the 'Mongoloid' group, though this is no longer the case as European and Caucasian has now become synamous with each other. Even to this day, the Sami people located in the North of the Nordic nations are considered to be part of the 'Mongoloid' racial classification though many can agree that the Sami people are indigenous to European regions they are located in.

This is not to invalidate any notions of a European identity, but rather explain how the discussion goes far deeper. Some people have a very strict definition of what a white person is, someone such as Varg Vikernes might argue that only a blue eyed blond hair pale skin person is a true white person (a very Nordic-influenced viewpoint) whereas some people believe that a brown-eyed black hair dark skinned person from the South of Europe is also white.

[Corporate_Demolisher]

In America, if you look white you are white. No ifs ands or buts. White Arabs may be seen as socially different but on paper they are 100% white.

[JamesBond007]

Hi sorry for bumping an old thread but I figure that its an interesting discussion and there doesn't seem to be much activity on this forum imo.

I think it depends on how someone might define the 'white' in white-passing. If they mean white as in Caucasian, then non-European Caucasians can't pass as white because they are actually white (if that's the definition to be used).

If one means 'white' as in European, it makes things confusing because not all ethnic Europeans are Caucasians. Up until the 1900s, the Hungarians and Finns were considered to be part of the 'Mongoloid' group, though this is no longer the case as European and Caucasian has now become synamous with each other. Even to this day, the Sami people located in the North of the Nordic nations are considered to be part of the 'Mongoloid' racial classification though many can agree that the Sami people are indigenous to European regions they are located in.

This is not to invalidate any notions of a European identity, but rather explain how the discussion goes far deeper. Some people have a very strict definition of what a white person is, someone such as Varg Vikernes might argue that only a blue eyed blond hair pale skin person is a true white person (a very Nordic-influenced viewpoint) whereas some people believe that a brown-eyed black hair dark skinned person from the South of Europe is also white.

To bad Varg is a mental midget and Hitler would throw him in a gas chamber for making 'entartete kunst' music or the equivalent of gangster rap for 'aryans'.

Hitler liked Wagner and would think of black metal as degenerate.

[JamesBond007]

In America, if you look white you are white. No ifs ands or buts. White Arabs may be seen as socially different but on paper they are 100% white.

England : whiteness -- tracing back ancestry to say the Royal Angevins/Plantagenets up to modern Saxe-Coburg-Gotha etc.. major clout.

America : My peasant scum of ancestors crawled through Ellis Island starving, poor and illiterate -I am white !

[Hektor12]

White-passing person is white, black-passing person is black and yellow-passing person is yellow, thats it.

[JamesBond007]

Because it is. Humans are a continuum, not a cline, racists told me humans form clines but this is wrong.

The electromagnetic spectrum is a continuum or a cline like genetic clusters somewhat.. Does that mean gamma rays and radio waves don't exist ? LOL @ non-STEM liberal arts retards. The concept of whiteness uses Anglo-Saxons as the benchmark. Jealous people tried to shift the benchmark to Scandinavians and also some to all Euros . So, whiteness is a New World largely Anglo-Sphere concept hence Anglo-Saxon or British passing is the gold standard.

[Östsvensk]

In America, if you look white you are white. No ifs ands or buts. White Arabs may be seen as socially different but on paper they are 100% white.

Nah, the one-drop rule is still much in effect in America. If not legally, then socially. Look at the BLM leader Shaun King. He looks more white than black.

In the United States, the “one-drop rule” — also known as hypodescent — dates to a 1662 Virginia law on the treatment of mixed-race individuals. The legal notion of hypodescent has been upheld as recently as 1985, when a Louisiana court ruled that a woman with a black great-great-great-great-grandmother could not identify herself as “white” on her passport.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...rule-persists/

[Chocolate_Hound]

White-passing only applies for non-Caucasians who pass for a Caucasian. Ex. A Negroid who manages to hide their African features such as straightening hair and lightening skin. Or a person who is half Mongoloid half Caucasoid but phenotypically shows the Caucasian features almost entirely.

Racially Caucasian populations such as Levantines and Berbers are 100% white and not white-passing. The problem is that it's been drilled into our heads that white people don't exist outside of Europe, when in reality they do (in the Levant and in North Africa).