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    This publication in Polish ("Polityka Narodowa" - "Nation's Politics" monthly, No. 4-6 April-June 1939) has article "Regiony polskie w Niemczech" ("Polish regions in Germany") by Jędrzej Giertych. It describes areas of Germany with Polish minority and territorial claims of Poland in case of war (which was already anticipated at that time):

    https://jbc.bj.uj.edu.pl/Content/360...39_004_005.pdf

    It generally mentions the same areas of Germany that Dmowski wanted for Poland in 1919 (see Dmowski's Line), including western and southern parts of East Prussia. North-eastern part of East Prussia was to be given to Lithuania. North-central part of East Prussia - with Konigsberg - was to become a separate "Free State Prussia".

    Dmowski's Line, western part:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...zachodnie.html

    http://www.ibidem.com.pl/zrodla/1918...zachodnie.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiARxZ75O4o



    Already Dmowski suggested back in 1919 - to create a rump East Prussian state (not as one of provinces of Weimar Germany, but as a separate state, just like Austria) under the protection of the League of Nations, with Konigsberg as the capital city, and in a customs union with Poland. So the international status of such East Prussian state would be similar to that which Free City Danzig had in reality.

    That's why I called it "Free State (East) Prussia" above.

    As for the Oder-Neisse Line as post-war Polish border:

    National Democracy (Narodowa Demokracja) was the first political faction which embraced that idea - they supported the Oder-Neisse Line (or actually even more westerly border, because they also wanted to annex Vorpommern, Rugen, Lebus region and Lusatia) since the Summer of 1941.

    Polish People's Party also embraced the Oder-Neisse in 1941.

    Polish Socialists supported the Oder-Neisse since late 1942.

    Centre-Left expressed support for the Oder-Neisse in 1943.

    Support for the Oder-Neisse (Old Piast Border) was increasing as people were becoming more and more outraged by the brutality of German atrocities and also as Stalin and the Western Allies supported it. Since 1943 all the major Polish political factions supported this proposal as post-WW2 borders. Of course, they also expected that territorial losses in the East were going to be smaller than in reality.
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    For reference, this is how West Prussia was split in reality after WW1:



    62% of territory and 57% of population - to Poland
    8% of territory and 19% of population - Free City Danzig
    30% of territory and 24% of population - to Germany

    And comparable data for Provinz Posen:

    90% of territory and 93% of population - to Poland
    10% of territory and 7% of population - to Germany

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    Germany should give them back?

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    I added a YT video lecture in English to the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Germany should give them back?
    They already did after WW2, but not after WW1.

    This is about Polish regions which remained in Germany after 1918.

    That article about them was written in 1939.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Germany should give them back?
    idk, but it serems most poles form such regions would prefer to live in germany

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЛыSSый View Post
    idk, but it serems most poles form such regions would prefer to live in germany
    Well they love rich Germans, Slavs were always in destitution, wars, poverty... Slav is an alternative name for Poor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Well they love rich Germans, Slavs were always in destitution, wars, poverty... Slav is an alternative name for Poor.


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    they just idiots, who go to work there inistead conquert them all. they might make fso from bmw, but our little kins still be too little for such deed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЛыSSый View Post
    they just idiots, who go to work there inistead conquert them all. they might make fso from bmw, but our little kins still be too little for such deed.
    Do you know when will Slavs rule the world?

    Slavs are poor since ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Do you know when will Slavs rule the world?
    has ruled when ussr and warshava's block were being. in that times even bosnia wasn't beggar butthurtstan

    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Slavs are poor since ever.
    surely not, westerners just don't give us chance. For example: soon after I had come in poland, i brought to home car and motorcycle from germany for free.
    If every slav do the same - germanians will buy their stolen cars from us

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    I propose to poles the deal: let they send invitaion to my relativers and they bring them germanian car for the cost of fuel from germany to poland.

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