Did Mongol invasion changed the genetic structure of Central Asia?

**~~LoLeL~~** · 07-05-2018, 12:43 PM

It is impossible to find a perfect modern proxy for the Oghuz incomers, the demographic transition following the Mongol invasion has reshaped the genetic structure of Central Asia. The region between the Caspian and Aral Seas, which was once home to Oghuz people, is currently inhabited by Kazakhs and Mongol tribes (Dughlat, Jalair, Onggirat etc.) played a significant role in the formation of Kazakhs.

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post386030

So Central Asians were less Mongoloid and more West Eurasian before Mongol Empire?

**Pahli** · 07-05-2018, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by LoLeL

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post386030

So Central Asians were less Mongoloid and more West Eurasian before Mongol Empire?

Yes, and there was millions of Persian speaking people back then but they were all massacred by the Mongols, so the region today is dominantly Turkic speaking with an exception to Bukhara and Samarkand which still hold a Tajik majority.

**Marmara** · 07-05-2018, 01:19 PM

Yes, many Iranics were living in Central Asia. Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were Iranic afaik before Mongols, also in Kazakhstan Turkics were more western shifted than modern Kazakhs which is I believe half Mongolian.

**cyberlorian** · 07-05-2018, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Marmara

Yes, many Iranics were living in Central Asia. Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were Iranic afaik before Mongols, also in Kazakhstan Turkics were more western shifted than modern Kazakhs which is I believe half Mongolian.

Were Kazakhs also Iranic?

**Marmara** · 07-05-2018, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Berkan

Were Kazakhs also Iranic?

No, maybe some southern parts, rest were Turkic.

**Pahli** · 07-05-2018, 04:18 PM

Khwarezm was Iranic, situated in Northern Uzbekistan / Southern Kazakhstan, most of upper Kazakhstan was inhabited by nomadic Turkic tribes

**~~Egyptian~~** · 07-05-2018, 04:21 PM

Rofl their influence reached even to Egypt, many Egyptians today of mongol origin

**~~LoLeL~~** · 07-06-2018, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Egyptian

Rofl their influence reached even to Egypt, many Egyptians today of mongol origin

Evidence?

**blogen** · 07-06-2018, 06:39 AM

Yes, brutally. Central Asia was Iranian speaker with a significant Turkic minority before the Mongols.

**StonyArabia** · 07-06-2018, 06:42 AM

They originally were more like Iranians. However a lot of Iranians were Turkized for whatever reason. For example the Khwarezmians were Turko-Persians, but they did not look Mongoloid. It seemed that the Turkic influence especially speech was seeping into Iranian lands. For example Azeris are no that Turkic at all, and are identical to Kurds genetically. However the Mongoloid invasion altered Central Asia