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Thread: Did Mongol invasion changed the genetic structure of Central Asia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iloko View Post
    Wasn't it mostly Mongol men interbreeding with Caucasian women?
    apparently not actually. This is a map showing mtdna origins of central asia. Half to more than half on average is from east asia.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/5201160

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    apparently not actually. This is a map showing mtdna origins of central asia. Half to more than half on average is from east asia.

    That East Asia is recent. Most Mongol time capture & women from Iranic tribes

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    Yes it was much more Iranic before and indo aryan before



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Mountains saved them, especially Pamiri Tajiks that still have like 50 - 60% Steppe barely mixed with Turkic tribes compared to Tajiks that have some Turkic admixture, which explains why they have ~10% Mong.
    Mountains wouldnt had stopped the mongols-turkics. there are enough ways to enter tajikistan or go to the mountains. I dont see how mountains would save them. Also pamiri tajiks carry some amount of mongol admixture which is like 10% or more in other calculators.

    dna results of pamiri-tajiki:


    This reference population is based on samples collected from people native to the Pamir Mountains of Tajikistan in southern Central Asia.
    The 10% Northeast Asian component was likely brought by the Turkic and Mongolian-speaking nomads from northeastern Asia who conquered this region in the past 2,000 years.
    source

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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    They already shifted to Turkic before the Mongol invasion. The Khawarzmians were a Turko-Persian people, originally Iranic but began to adopted Turkic language for whatever reason.
    After Mongol invasion Turkic language became only stronger in Central Asia overpowering Persian language. This doesn't sound like defeat of Turkic populations from mighty Mongols.

    So called Mongols of Genghis Khan were not exclusively Mongols but 1) Turko-Mongols. 2) Original Turks ( Huns) who migrated from Mongolia and Eastern Khalka Mongols share similar DNA.

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    central-asians had already mongol-turkic DNA before the mongol invasion... they tested the DNA of some ancient burials in central-asia which showed that ethnic groups in central-asian during ancient times already were mixing with each other.

    look at this mitochondrial dna haplogroup distibutions among ethnic populations of central-asia. you see that tajiks and uzbeks are very similar in the amount of carrying female eastern-eurasian haplogroups. while tajiks speak an iranian language and uzbeks a turkic language:

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    Genghis Khan basically reconquered lands which were already conquered by Turks before him.

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    Yes. Central Asia was white during the Bronze Age & has been getting progressively Mongoloid since esp. from the Mongol invasion
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    Mongols are just alien friends like Agumon MON mine identity MON

    Here's a picture of Agumon:



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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimatePagan View Post
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