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    No, you scum. No Arab was involved in the conversion of Turks. Sogdians, who Persianized themselves, converted the Turks through missionary activites, Turkic mamluks and employing Turkic mercenaries. Sogdians and Khwarezmians spread Islam through Turks after Arab armies were removed from the region by the Abbasid caliphate, and client Iranic converts were given federal regions.

    In the Islam which Turks practice, anything is Persian. Even words for prophet (Peygamber), prayer (namaz) are Farsi.

    When Turks met Arabs during the 7th and 8th centuries, they fought them in Caucasus and Central Asia. Khazars and Turgesh blocked Islam's spread through Arabic swords, slavery and violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    No, you scum. No Arab was involved in the conversion of Turks. Sogdians, who Persianized themselves, converted the Turks through missionary activites, Turkic mamluks and employing Turkic mercenaries. Sogdians and Khwarezmians spread Islam through Turks after Arab armies were removed from the region by the Abbasid caliphate, and client Iranic converts were given federal regions.

    In the Islam which Turks practice, anything is Persian. Even words for prophet (Peygamber), prayer (namaz) are Farsi.

    When Turks met Arabs during the 7th and 8th centuries, they fought them in Caucasus and Central Asia. Khazars and Turgesh blocked Islam's spread through Arabic swords, slavery and violence.

    Arabs also arabized you Levantines. Levantine Christian asses were so happy to see that some Umayyad leaders (like Muawiyyah) were taking Levantine girls as captives and getting them pregnant that they arabized themselves, dropping their Aramean language and adopting Arabic and pretending to be Arabs.
    And Turks like yourselves pretending to be Turkic only to be Turkified by the invading Turks. Your kind cluster more closer to Kurds, Armenians and even to Iranians than to Turkmen and other Turkic populace of central asia. Yeah? Show me some evidence, asshole. I'm more genetically Arab than you're genetically Turkic. Show us your face rather than hiding it behind your computer screen. These Turkic peoples have nothing to do with Anatolian donkeys such as yourself. Kipchak Turks were the ones who kicked both the Mongols and the Crusaders out, not OWD scumbags like yourself who is begging for Europeans to join forces or something. Again, 7abiby, it was Arab and Persian missionaries responsible for the conversion of the locals to Islam in central and south asia. Oghuz Turkic peoples were slaves and bandits during ahmed ibn al-fadlan's time in the 10th century AD. I love how in the past you talk shit against the Persians only for you to use them here to spew hatred against us. Disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Because Persians/Iranians were not easily pushed around. But in saying that, they have been influenced by Arabic culture alot, because of the spread of Islam, which is undeniably an Arab dominated religion, founded in Arabia, with a type of Arabic linguistic supremacy.

    Turks are similar in this regard.
    There is a modern cultural onslaught but Turks weren't invaded by a people who gave them a religion.
    Arabs attempted in two places, both failed. In steppes north to Caucasus chains and in central Asia.



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    Later helpless Arabs, unabled to defeat and enslave Turks, invented some stories telling that Turks are Gog and Magog, and said the prophet said that. Still today many Arabs believe Turks are Gog and Magog!

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    They are shia, Sunni and Wahabi Islam are more linked to arabization.

    Shia Azerbaijan isnt arabized neither

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    They are shia, Sunni and Wahabi Islam are more linked to arabization.

    Shia Azerbaijan isnt arabized neither
    They shifted Shiite in 16th century. Prior they were Sunni. So they resisted Arabism while being Sunnis.
    Surprising as Nafris, Egyptians and Levantines couldn't do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    They shifted Shiite in 16th century. Prior they were Sunni. So they resisted Arabism while being Sunnis.
    Surprising as Nafris, Egyptians and Levantines couldn't do.
    Maybe they turned to shia Islam and made it predominatly Persian to counter a Arabization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post

    Shia Azerbaijan isnt arabized neither
    Azeris are Turks, and the Turks have also seemed to escape Arabization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Maybe they turned to shia Islam and made it predominatly Persian to counter a Arabization.
    They became shi3a after Qizlibash rose to power, not before. Persians were sunnis in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    They became shi3a after Qizlibash rose to power, not before. Persians were sunnis in the past.
    I know but who knows if they were on the brink to become arabized prior to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    I know but who knows if they were on the brink to become arabized prior to that
    Doubt it really. Arabization started mainly in the 13th century AD when Arabian tribes began migrating to Iraq, Levant and North Africa. Arabic influence in the 7th century AD in Iran and beyond was very weak, and we can see that in genetic studies that Persians don;t have Arabian admixture in contrast to Levantines.

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