Ancestry/ethnic related pet peeves

[Sharpshooter]

Ethnics generally.


That's one of the reasons I don't like 'ethnic' mixing.

But you're the product of one yourself?

It works ok in Australia and New Zealand though I think to be fair. Most Irish/English hybrids appear to identify only as Australian in my experience and aren't really into their ancestry the way North Americans are. I've been a cricket fan for over 20 years and I never knew until recently that Shane Warne's mother was German, when asked about it he made a weird joke and said "I'm an Aussie, I'm not called Adolf Warne".

Obviously there a loads of English people with Irish backgrounds but most just identify as British, especially by 3rd generation.

[Creoda]

But you're the product of one yourself?

It works ok in Australia and New Zealand though I think to be fair. Most Irish/English hybrids appear to identify only as Australian in my experience and aren't really into their ancestry the way North Americans are. I've been a cricket fan for over 20 years and I never knew until recently that Shane Warne's mother was German, when asked about it he made a weird joke and said "I'm an Aussie, I'm not called Adolf Warne".

Obviously there a loads of English people with Irish backgrounds but most just identify as British, especially by 3rd generation.

That's why I put ethnic in commas. In Australia British & Irish aren't considered ethnic, and for the most part neither are other NW European descendants; as you said regarding Shane Warne, you wouldn't know Australians who have German/Dutch ancestry unless their name gave it away, they are completely assimilated into the culturally 'Anglo' majority. Southern/Eastern Europeans not so much, thus they are ethnic, also because they stick out phenotypically. The US is similar in that respect, although over there the Irish have a more separate ethnic identity.

Not crazy about mass NW Euro mixing either, but more for cultural reasons, and in the new world it's already baked in, so no point bemoaning it.

[Graham]

Obviously there a loads of English people with Irish backgrounds but most just identify as British, especially by 3rd generation.

Noticed that since living in England. Those with Irish backgrounds tend to lose touch a bit quicker compared to where I'm from.

Another thing have noticed is that English Proddie Schools are named after saints so the catholic schools are harder to spot.

[Anglo-Celtic]

I don't like it when people claim that Appalachians are Ulster Scottish. It's like they can't have English forebears and Irish forebears. None of my great-grandparents are 100% Scots-Irish! Yet, people, many from foreign countries, think that they know better.

I'm also over the BS that no Highland Scottish and Native Irish went to the Appalachians. All four of my grandparents have Highlander ancestors. At least three have Native Irish forebears. "Experts" pretend that they don't exist, and they quote the "all Ulster Scottish were Anglo-Saxons from the Borders and Eastern Lowlands" rubbish like it came straight from the Holy Bible.

I don't like it when trace ancestry is exaggerated. I have a spot of Sicilian, but I'm not all "hey, that must be why I like Mafia films and spaghetti!". I'm descended from at least two SSA slaves, but I'm not all "I'm Black, and I'm proud, y'all!". I don't binge watch "Vikings" because someone came here from Sweden in the 1600s.

[Creoda]

Hate the term 'Brits' for British/Britons, and I'm not too fond of the overuse of 'Aussies' for anyone born in Australia. Can understand why Yesno bristles at 'Kiwis', though it must be better than 'Pakeha' which I see written everywhere there

[Creoda]

Hate the term 'Brits' for British/Britons, and I'm not too fond of the overuse of 'Aussies' for anyone born in Australia. Can understand why Yesno bristles at 'Kiwis', though it must be better than 'Pakeha' which I see written everywhere there

Oliver109 and Tooting Carmen use this term constantly, despite the fact that real British people rarely ever call themselves that (and many don't call themselves British either). Pretty sure it was coined by Americans as a bit of a dig, and more recently taken up by the London media to save on print space.

[Creoda]

Oliver109 and Tooting Carmen use this term constantly, despite the fact that real British people rarely ever call themselves that (and many don't call themselves British either). Pretty sure it was coined by Americans as a bit of a dig, and more recently taken up by the London media to save on print space.

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=Brit

Brit (n.)
U.S. colloquial shortening of Britisher or Briton, 1901, formerly (with Britisher) felt as offensive by Englishmen traveling in the States, who regarded it as another instance of the "odious vulgarism" of the Americans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossa...or_the_British

Brit
Brit is a commonly used term in the United States, the Republic of Ireland and elsewhere, simply as a shortened form of from "Britain".......being much more frequently used in North America than Britain itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aussie

Aussie is used defensively by some Australians as a term of identification for people and as a nickname for the traditional cultural group (of Anglo-Celtic descent).[13]

[rothaer]

When non-German FRG citizens are (mis)labeled Germans.

It's an administrational promoted deception.

[calxpal]

I'm not sure if this counts in this discussion but I've been the victim of this multiple times but having people completely dismiss my known and well researched heritage and genealogy due to DNA results from some website saying I have "too low" of a percentage of it. In this context I'm referring to recent ancestors I've been able to verify. I find it VERY insulting but especially hate it when people are rude and keep insisting that one of my ancestors must have been "something else" and I'm just stupid. It ended up making my mom really mad too that people were telling me because of AncestryDNA that I don't have that much Irish ancestry, she thought the percentage was wrong too. I wish people could discuss this stuff while remaining respectful and civil. Also I had someone harass me that I must have a Swedish ancestor because ancestry assigned me 6% Sweden & Denmark which I know is BS lmao I can confirm that isn't true especially since other websites didn't assign me that and it isn't in my tree. Honestly it would be cool if it was real but it isn't. Like sure I admit maybe It's possible that my ancestors DNA may not completely look like that region or due to migration, or the algorithm could be contributing, but all these DNA tests are estimates and will always have some form of error even though they can be fairly accurate.

I guess I would call this "DNA results tribalism" which is a pet peeve of mine

But I do expect to sometimes receive unexpected results or percentages from these tests, but people need to learn to be more open minded around discussing them and accept they make mistakes .

Please don't call me an AncestryDNA hater though, I know everyone has their own experience with these tests.

I think DNA tests are a good complement but not a substitute for genealogy and ancestry research.

Sorry I hope this is relevant here.

[Odelia]

When darker European Americans call themselves white so liberally (hold your pitchforks there Spaniards & fellow Italians!)...This italian youtuber arielle scarcella (who I love and enjoy) always calls herself white and without any caveats (Michael Knowles who is sicilian american does say "well I'm not that white blah blah"). But she is pretty brazen about it when I think gurl you're not that white, relax! Yesss technically she is white as per her ethnicity, but she looks semitic/jewish asf.



Michael Knowles (Italian american who habitually says he's ''swarthy'' and is not that white):