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    Default Should Kurds apologize for their crimes against Armenians?

    As you know, very bad things happened in eastern Turkey during WWI.
    Kurdish and Zaza gangs clashed with Christian Armenian gangs in the region. There were much casualties. Kurds ultimately won.
    Armenians who survived were ones who were escorted by Turkish military troops.
    Others hid their identity or were simply absorbed into Kurds.

    Let's take the example of the Muş province. Muş was half-half Armenian and Kurdish in 1915. Now it's... mainly Kurdish.
    This forum has also an Armenian member who's from there.

    Armenians who were hiding in that area now dare to speak up and explain what they suffered.

    Armenians now have a cultural center in Muş.
    In English.

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    The New York Times

    KURDS MASSACRE MORE ARMENIANS

    APRIL 26, 1915

    TIFLIS, Transcaucasia, April 24 (via Petrograd and London, April 23.)-- Refugees who have reached the Russian line report that massacre of Armenians by Mohammedans are being continued on even a greater scale. They say that all the inhabitants of ten villages near Van, in Armenia, Asiatic Turkey, have been put to death.

    On being advised of massacres at Erzrum, Berjan and Zeitun, and of the conditions at Van, the Katolicos, head of Armenian church at Etchmiadzin near Erivan, cabled to President Wilson an appeal to the people of United States on behalf of the Armenians.

    Robert M. Labaree, an American missionary of Urumiah, Persia, who visited the Serbian villages and with whom the refugees were quartered, says he found the humanity of the people as broad as their means were limited. The village Governments or Relief Committees had issued eight pounds of flour to each refugee in six weeks.

    The Associated Press received reports of the massacre of 800 of the villagers in Urza and of 720 in Salmas. The painful uncertainty concerning the 15,000 survivors of Urza was confirmed by a journey through Salmas. Three weeks had failed to obliterate the signs of the slaughter. Pools of blood still marked the execution places in Haftevan. The caps of thirty-six victims lay where a mud wall had been topped over on them. A young man named Hackatur related the story of his escape from a well in which the bodies of the dead had been crammed. He fell with others and was tossed into the well, but he managed to wriggle through the bodies lying on top of him and escaped at nightfall.

    Not all the Christians lacked the courage or means for self-defense. At the desolated Catholic mission at Hosrova, where forty-eight victims of the massacre were buried, Elizabeth Marcara, an Armenian girl, told how she and young David Ishmu battled with the Kurds. Her story later was amply confirmed.

    "When the Kurds burst the village gates," said Miss Marcara, "we took rifles and mounted to the roof. I fired eighty shots. The Kurds were forced to withdraw outside the village wall. There I killed two and David two. Later we killed four more, one of whom was the Chief. The Kurds abandoned their plunder, and carried off their dead.

    "The battle lasted three hours. The death of their Chief caused the Kurds to flee. We came from the roof and recovered the things the Kurds had left behind them. Reinforced, I fled with my relatives, We saw the Kurds engaged in the pillage of Hafgvan and fired on them, but they escaped with their valuables.

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    I believe they already have.
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    Shold Turks apologize?

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    Turks sent Kurds to do the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    Turks sent Kurds to do the job
    Not only sent, but armed them aswell. Together with promises such as you'll get their lands when they are finished off. Now ofc the blame is still on the person that swings the sword but had the Turks more men available at the time they wouldn't have needed the Kurdish clans, they would've done it themself.

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    If Turks were so into this kind of jobs, why do Asian Greeks still exist? They are 40% of Greece's current population. Actually Armenian diaspora in Western countries are almost all descent of Armenians who Turks evacuated from the region as you know. Armenians who descend from them, they who were escorted and protected by Turkish troops are around 2 million now. They are in USA, Argentine, France etc. Even the fatty Kim Kardashian descends from them.

    Quote Originally Posted by xiperyum View Post
    Turks? i dont think ittihat terakki is a turk. they main leader are 2 kurd 1 chirkazzian and albanian also they have masonic connection
    Who Albanian? Enver? Only his mom was Albo. His dad side is documented to be Gagauz who was converted by Tatars in Crimea during 17th century. Dad counts here, Enver was Turk not Albo. Young Turks (ittihad) were Turks ofc.

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    In the central anatolia; Kurds killed many armenian family and took their lands.

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    They already have, and it was the Turks that armed them to the teeth and etc. They(Turks) also killed many Assyrians and Greeks as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiperyum View Post
    They dont kill Turks? only Turks kill them all? wow. We are in war. and imperialist powers attack everywhere on ottoman empire and we kill so many nation of anatolia. so why? how?

    Turks living with them many years why Turks killing them all?
    Nationalism and racism, that's why. Kurds killed them under Turkish orders.

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