Davidski neolithic G25 admixture with Jewish G-Grandparent

[Hawthorn_Grove]

Hi all,

Popped this as a reply in the other thread about Davidski's neolithic calculator but thought I'd start a new thread to see if I can garner any views.

These are my G25 results on that calculator:

Target: Hawthorn_Grove_scaled
Distance: 3.6685% / 0.03668480

45.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.6 TUR_Barcin_N
13.0 WHG

I'm interested in whether this admixture would be expected with one Jewish Great Grandparent, or whether it's unlikely not to see some element of Levant_PPNB or other non-european source.

Appreciate any responses.

[Flashball]

Do you have one jewish g-grandparent?

[Gallop]

Hi all,

Popped this as a reply in the other thread about Davidski's neolithic calculator but thought I'd start a new thread to see if I can garner any views.

These are my G25 results on that calculator:

Target: Hawthorn_Grove_scaled
Distance: 3.6685% / 0.03668480

45.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
41.6 TUR_Barcin_N
13.0 WHG

I'm interested in whether this admixture would be expected with one Jewish Great Grandparent, or whether it's unlikely not to see some element of Levant_PPNB or other non-european source.

Appreciate any responses.

This demonstrates what G25 is and how it differs from saliva test results.

[Hawthorn_Grove]

Do you have one jewish g-grandparent?

Yes, that's right. But no middle-eastern signal or ancient DNA matches.

This demonstrates what G25 is and how it differs from saliva test results.

Indeed, though it's odd because modelling a sample like Ashkenazi_Lithuania shows admixture from the Levant and modern-day Iran.

It seems to me that commercial testing companies identifying "European Jewish" are hiding a lot of potential differences underneath.

[Flashball]

Yes, that's right. But no middle-eastern signal or ancient DNA matches.



Indeed, though it's odd because modelling a sample like Ashkenazi_Lithuania shows admixture from the Levant and modern-day Iran.

It seems to me that commercial testing companies identifying "European Jewish" are hiding a lot of potential differences underneath.

Share me your g25 data.
Do you know your genealogy?

[Hawthorn_Grove]

Share me your g25 data.
Do you know your genealogy?

I have PMed it to you.

My genealogy is 6/8 English, 1/8 Scottish and 1/8 Jewish supposedly from Ukraine.

[Gallop]

Yes, that's right. But no middle-eastern signal or ancient DNA matches.



Indeed, though it's odd because modelling a sample like Ashkenazi_Lithuania shows admixture from the Levant and modern-day Iran.

It seems to me that commercial testing companies identifying "European Jewish" are hiding a lot of potential differences underneath.

I don't think they're doing it right at all either, but at least there's the potential for it to happen in the future.

[Leto]

My genealogy is 6/8 English, 1/8 Scottish and 1/8 Jewish supposedly from Ukraine.

Post your Euro K13 results from GED, we'll see if you score an elevated amount of East Med. 1/8 is not a lot if you keep in mind that Ashkenazi Jews are already nearly half European.

[Hawthorn_Grove]

Post your Euro K13 results from GED, we'll see if you score an elevated amount of East Med. 1/8 is not a lot if you keep in mind that Ashkenazi Jews are already nearly half European.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.52
2 Baltic 19.92
3 West_Med 14.25
4 West_Asian 7.41
5 East_Med 7.13
6 Siberian 1.48
7 Sub-Saharan 1
8 East_Asian 0.85
10 Oceanian 0.24
11 South_Asian 0.2

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.52
2 Baltic 19.92
3 West_Med 14.25
4 West_Asian 7.41
5 East_Med 7.13
6 Siberian 1.48
7 Sub-Saharan 1
8 East_Asian 0.85
10 Oceanian 0.24
11 South_Asian 0.2

Yep, you do score more East Med than most White British people would

Here is your updated oracle
https://pastebin.com/7cn4xK0C

Distance to: Hawthorn_Grove(Brit)
4.53852399 Flemish
4.66674405 French_Brittany
4.74152929 Walloon
4.78043931 Dutch_South
5.25729969 French_North
5.37000931 English_Southeast
5.77277230 English_Midlands
6.09601509 English_Southwest
6.74891843 English_North
6.77597963 Welsh
7.00241387 Dutch
7.50557793 Dutch_Central
7.55001987 Scottish
7.63912299 German_Southwest
7.77631661 German_Northwest
8.56825537 French_Alsace
8.57755210 Irish
9.14703231 Dutch_North
9.23330927 Swiss_German
9.36205640 French_Central

Distance to: Hawthorn_Grove(Brit)
2.64932567 18.40% Italian_Center + 81.60% Scottish
2.67405318 84.60% Irish + 15.40% Jew_Ashkenazi
2.68118202 79.40% Irish + 20.60% Italian_Center
2.68822943 11.40% Jew_Sephardi + 88.60% Welsh
2.70832278 12.60% Jew_Sephardi + 87.40% Scottish
2.74855430 15.00% Italian_South + 85.00% Scottish
2.80561970 83.20% Irish + 16.80% Italian_South
2.80726583 12.00% Jew_Ashkenazi + 88.00% Welsh
2.81244137 13.40% Italian_South + 86.60% Welsh
2.81486984 85.80% Irish + 14.20% Jew_Sephardi
2.82515299 76.60% Irish + 23.40% Italian_North
2.82886554 14.00% Maltese + 86.00% Scottish
2.84278583 20.80% Italian_North + 79.20% Scottish
2.85654741 13.40% Jew_Ashkenazi + 86.60% Scottish
2.86099017 12.40% Maltese + 87.60% Welsh
2.86473642 8.60% Lebanese_Druze + 91.40% Welsh
2.89018049 84.20% Irish + 15.80% Maltese
2.90108432 11.60% Greek_Islands + 88.40% Welsh
2.91177157 16.40% Italian_Center + 83.60% Welsh
2.94373990 13.00% Greek_Islands + 87.00% Scottish

Target: Hawthorn_Grove(Brit)
Distance: 2.0525% / 2.05252024
72.3 Scottish
13.0 Walloon
6.4 Basque_France
5.6 Lebanese_Druze
1.1 Oroqen
1.1 Turkish_East-Black_Sea
0.5 Yoruban

It just can't be more evident. 5.6% Lebanese is pretty much 1/8 Ashkenazi. Case closed.