Why do people on anthroforums assume that the more western someone is geographically..........

[Myanthropologies]

Why do people correlate being located more western geographically with being more western "genetically" and vice versa? If this were truly the case, then many Arab and North African groups would be genetically more Western than some Eastern European groups are.

History has shown that people migrate in groups all the time, and that populations are not static. Geography is just a small factor on genetics.

[Gründig]

Alot of questions need to be asked for the way some people on these anthro forums think.

[Myanthropologies]

I often see this with Middle Eastern groups. Some Levantines and Kurds think they are more "western" genetically than Iranian groups because of their location, when really, neither of the two are overwhelmingly more Western than each other. Both have similar amounts of Western and non western components. Geography hardly makes a difference, except for the case of Western Turks.

[Peterski]

Because there are studies which showed high correlation between geography and genes in Europe:



But there is also a correlation between geography and distribution of native ethnic groups. OTOH diaspora populations (Gypsies, Jews, etc.) have much smaller correlation between DNA and geography.

Correlation does not always imply causation.

[War Chef]

I am the most western easterner. Descendant of Fritigern's Goths.

[Myanthropologies]

Because there were studies which showed high correlation between geography and genes in Europe:



But there is also an obvious correlation between geography and distribution of ethnic groups as well.

Correlation does not always imply causation.

For example Diaspora populations (Gypsies, Jews, etc.) have much smaller correlation between DNA and geography.

There is no doubt a high correlation, but that is in terms of the European gradient. In the Middle East, between Levantine and Iranian groups, geography seems to hardly make any difference.

[Peterski]

What does it even mean "genetically more Western"?

Modern North Africans have a lot of Iberomaurusian descent (prehistoric North-West African).

They also have some Sub-Saharan West African admix.

[Myanthropologies]

What does it even mean "genetically more Western"?

Modern North Africans have a lot of Iberomaurusian descent (prehistoric North-West African).

They also have some Sub-Saharan West African admix.

Genetically closer to the core of Europeanness, I guess.

[Bobby Martnen]

What does it even mean "genetically more Western"?

Modern North Africans have a lot of Iberomaurusian descent (prehistoric North-West African).

They also have some Sub-Saharan West African admix.

Don't tell Cristiano Viagra!

But in all seriousness, I'm Centrally European genetically

[Peterski]

Genetically closer to the core of Europeanness, I guess.

The core of genetic Europeanness is where the core of WHG admixture is. So not in Western Europe.

Which ethnic group has the most of WHG admixture? If we believe Haak 2015, these are Estonians: