Your thoughts on the Ottoman Empire?

[Heretik]

Да им еба майката рязана турска, семето им да изсъхне, чумата да ги тръшне всички до един.

Such a balkanoid curse! up up

[Heretik]

To be on topic:

As much as I dislike what Ottomans have done in these parts of Europe, one thing must be recognized, they had their organizational skills and logistics developed to the point of perfection thus enabling them to conquer vast territories of Europe, Middle East and Africa. Only in that way I have some sort of a respect towards them...
Preservationist should be aware that Turkey nowadays is arming themselves heavily, so, they may have some secret plans.

[Ushtari]

Before the Ottomans came we had three strong European states in the Balkans and that were the Serbian, Bulgarian and Byzantine empires (Byzantine Empire would have later become an ethnocentric state of the Greeks had it not fell). The Balkans was never fragmented as it is today and 99% of the fragmentation that exists today is the consequence of allowing the Ottomans to rule us for 500 years.


An example of how nice and neat the Balkans used to be before it got all messed up by the Ottomans. Obviously most of Greece that were occupied by us should be handed back to the Byzantine Empire and Dalmatia to Serbia. And we've got a perfect non-fragmented Balkans but no, we don't have that today, thanks to the Ottomans.

Before Ottoman empire there was fights between Serbs and the Bulgarian empire and parts of byzantine empire. Stefan Nemanja conquered towns from Byzantin empire. So why do you claim it was peace and harmony? You do know that the Bulgarian empire conquered large parts of Balkan, do you call that harmony? Christians were already in fight with each other. And as i said earlier, the Orthodox church was shining during ottoman empire.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Before Ottoman empire there was fights between Serbs and the Bulgarian empire and parts of byzantine empire. Stefan Nemanja conquered towns from Byzantin empire. So why do you claim it was peace and harmony? You do know that the Bulgarian empire conquered large parts of Balkan, do you call that harmony? Christians were already in fight with each other. And as i said earlier, the Orthodox church was shining during ottoman empire.

Read my post again. When I said nice and neat I was talking about how fragmented the Balkans is today compared to the Balkans pre-Ottoman Empire. I find your praise of the Empire a bit... odd but perhaps not unusual among Shiptars who tend to praise their Muslim rulers and put down Christians.

[Daos]

The Ottomans were a plague! Corruption flourished under their influence (and is still going strong to this day), they further impoverished our lands via the tribute we had to pay to them, our rulers were changed frequently because of them (especially between 1711 and 1821, when the highest bidder would receive the throne), many men lost their lives in vain fighting against the endless horde and, if that wasn't enough, they also kidnapped and raped may of our women.

[Joe McCarthy]

[Hess]

The Ottoman empire is a plague in truest sense of the word, the bane and mortal enemy enemy of all things European.

Nothing has changed from the old times- to this day Turkey at our doorstep, colonizing countries like German with it's illiterate savage hordes and pushing to get into the EU.

[Bozkurt_Karabash]

I admire Ottoman empire for the reasons many people have already said, but it's good it had to end. I really would not have liked to live under the Sultan. The republic era of Turkey is much better and I think the relative westernization is good. You have to keep with the times.

[Pallantides]

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[Damião de Góis]

I like them. Because of their blockage of the spice trade route, it forced us to reach India by sea, giving way to our global empire.