Sicilian native here

**donriccardo** · 07-14-2018, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Sikeliot

Single Population Sharing is basically a list of the top 20 populations, in order, closest to the person. Mixed Population Mode is basically saying "what two ethnicities can this person be modeled as a mixture of".

Got it. Thank you

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 07-14-2018, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by donriccardo

Got it. Thank you

I think the genetics and phenotypes match in Sicily fairly well. While there are light types throughout the island I'd say, consistent with genetics, Syracusans look the least Middle Eastern on the island.

**donriccardo** · 07-14-2018, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Sikeliot

I think the genetics and phenotypes match in Sicily fairly well. While there are light types throughout the island I'd say, consistent with genetics, Syracusans look the least Middle Eastern on the island.

Maybe it's true genetically. However across Sicily the physical traits are all varied and mixed. In each family you might find people that look nordic and others look more let's say like middle eastern. Just to give you an example...my dad and his younger brother are blonde type with fair skin while their oldest brother's skin and hair were dark. My nephews from the same parents, one is blonde with very light eyes, his brother has dark skin and black hair. It's almost impossible to distinguish sicilians from different cities. We can only do this with the DNA. I love this forum, let's collect data and study our DNA.

**donriccardo** · 07-14-2018, 01:58 PM

I remember of something that happened to me a few years ago. I was in the airport in Rome and I saw a very familiar man. I thought he was a well known sicilian photographer from my hometown Caltanissetta. He had 100% his face and physical traits. I was about to approach him and say hello but the man started to speak arabic to another friend there. So I realized he was another person. I never met before someone who had such resemblance to another. They really look alike. This made me reflect about the arabic roots of some sicilians...

**Tauromachos** · 07-14-2018, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by donriccardo

Hello guys,

I am new to this forum and I have read a lot of interesting stuff. @sikeliot I see you are very expert about sicilian DNA. I just want to ask for your help in the future to understand more about this stuff, because I am mostly ignorant about haplogroups. I am 100% sicilian, born in Sicily, raised in Sicily but I've been living far away in South East Asia for 15 years. So forgive my english if there could be some mistakes, I am a sicilian native speaker.
Btw, I have tested my DNA with living DNA company and waiting yet for the results. My parents are both sicilians, I have traced my paternal family tree which goes back to the 1600, I know all of my ancestors in detail since that time and they were all sicilians. They were from the small town of Pietraperzia, today under Enna but before under Caltanissetta. However it seems one ancestor of this family came from the town of Modica (Ragusa) and he moved to Pietraperzia in 1657. From my mother side little is known, I only know her dad was from Agrigento but I can't be really sure about that side of the family because there is a rumour (which I believe it's true) my mom's grandfather was the illegitimate child of a famous politician from Agrigento. So I never tried to investigate about my mom's family tree. I hope I can get soon my DNA results so I can share them with all of you and maybe you could help me to read them.

Thank you

Buon Giorno e buon venuti!

Tu sei un vero Siciliano?

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 07-14-2018, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by donriccardo

I remember of something that happened to me a few years ago. I was in the airport in Rome and I saw a very familiar man. I thought he was a well known sicilian photographer from my hometown Caltanissetta. He had 100% his face and physical traits. I was about to approach him and say hello but the man started to speak arabic to another friend there. So I realized he was another person. I never met before someone who had such resemblance to another. They really look alike. This made me reflect about the arabic roots of some sicilians...

I think that such phenotypes should be more common in Palermo, Agrigento, and Caltanissetta. One side of my father's family is from Messina and the other is from Palermo and they look different. My side from Messina is darker, but has less Near Eastern features.

I would be interested to see your family from Enna if you have photos because most people from Enna I see look like regular Greeks.

**donriccardo** · 07-15-2018, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by Sikeliot

I think that such phenotypes should be more common in Palermo, Agrigento, and Caltanissetta. One side of my father's family is from Messina and the other is from Palermo and they look different. My side from Messina is darker, but has less Near Eastern features.

I would be interested to see your family from Enna if you have photos because most people from Enna I see look like regular Greeks.

Here is one. My paternal grandmother's parents. The man belonged to a very noble and ancient family in Pietraperzia, the woman's family came from Santa Caterina (Caltanissetta).

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**donriccardo** · 07-15-2018, 04:24 AM

Pietraperzia has several people with nordic phenotypes as well. The town has a castle that was once ruled by arabs but after that french normans came and they ruled it for more than 500 years. My paternal family has lived in Pietraperzia for 400 years, even though the marriage record (year 1657) of my earliest ancestor there says he came from the town of Modica (Ragusa). This summer I searched for his birth certificate in Modica but I was not able to find it. I only found one man with same name and family name, same mother's name but different father's name.

**donriccardo** · 07-15-2018, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by cybernautic

Buon Giorno e buon venuti!

Tu sei un vero Siciliano?

Si, thank you.

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 07-15-2018, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by donriccardo

Hello guys,

I am new to this forum and I have read a lot of interesting stuff. @sikeliot I see you are very expert about sicilian DNA. I just want to ask for your help in the future to understand more about this stuff, because I am mostly ignorant about haplogroups. I am 100% sicilian, born in Sicily, raised in Sicily but I've been living far away in South East Asia for 15 years. So forgive my english if there could be some mistakes, I am a sicilian native speaker.
Btw, I have tested my DNA with living DNA company and waiting yet for the results. My parents are both sicilians, I have traced my paternal family tree which goes back to the 1600, I know all of my ancestors in detail since that time and they were all sicilians. They were from the small town of Pietraperzia, today under Enna but before under Caltanissetta. However it seems one ancestor of this family came from the town of Modica (Ragusa) and he moved to Pietraperzia in 1657. From my mother side little is known, I only know her dad was from Agrigento but I can't be really sure about that side of the family because there is a rumour (which I believe it's true) my mom's grandfather was the illegitimate child of a famous politician from Agrigento. So I never tried to investigate about my mom's family tree. I hope I can get soon my DNA results so I can share them with all of you and maybe you could help me to read them.

Thank you

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