Robert E Lee - hero or villain?

**~~Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin~~** · 07-14-2018, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

It wasn't about slavery, and there had been Blacks and even native Americans that had fought on the side of the confederacy.

They were only allowed to fight on the confederacy when they were about to lose. They didnt want blacks being soldiers.

**~~Kamal900~~** · 07-14-2018, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin

They were only allowed to fight on the confederacy when they were about to lose. They didnt want blacks being soldiers.

Not sure about that. All I know is that American history isn't what some people think it is. Abe Lincoln for example despised Blacks so very much that he wanted them out of America.

**Mortimer** · 07-14-2018, 06:55 AM

A bit of both

**Mortimer** · 07-14-2018, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

Not sure about that. All I know is that American history isn't what some people think it is. Abe Lincoln for example despised Blacks so very much that he wanted them out of America.

Dont buy into the propaganda. Of course all whites were racist, Lincoln too, and still many are. Until 1965 blacks had not equal rights they were segregated. But the confederacy didnt had black soldiers, the union did too and many blacks who fled slavery and escaped to the north became free and fought for the union.

**Mortimer** · 07-14-2018, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

It wasn't about slavery, and there had been Blacks and even native Americans that had fought on the side of the confederacy.

Dont throw blacks under the bus, they are humans as everyone else. They had native americans but not blacks, they kept blacks as slaves. That they were granted freedom of slavery is a step in the right direction. Thats why the union is preferrable.

**zhaoyun** · 07-14-2018, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

It wasn't about slavery, and there had been Blacks and even native Americans that had fought on the side of the confederacy.

It doesn't matter. The institution of slavery is evil and the result of the war was the abolishing of it.

**~~Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin~~** · 07-14-2018, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

Not sure about that. All I know is that American history isn't what some people think it is. Abe Lincoln for example despised Blacks so very much that he wanted them out of America.

No, they werent. Other than that they were only allowed to be musicians. When they started losing than they were allowed to be soldiers.

**~~KMack~~** · 07-14-2018, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Dont buy into the propaganda. Of course all whites were racist, Lincoln too, and still many are. Until 1965 blacks had not equal rights they were segregated. But the confederacy didnt had black soldiers, the union did too and many blacks who fled slavery and escaped to the north became free and fought for the union.

Are you fucking insane? You know what all whites thought back then? Lincoln was all over the place on slavery and abolishing it, party being a politician from Illinois. He said on multiple occasions all men should be free and be able to improve their lot in life. His main concern was what do you do with all of these free blacks, can they make it on their own down there etc. One reason he proposed sending free southern blacks to Liberia or somewhere else in the Americas.

**Richmondbread** · 08-08-2018, 06:28 AM

A true patriot. Great hero!

**~~dystopiansc~~** · 08-08-2018, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Dont throw blacks under the bus, they are humans as everyone else. They had native americans but not blacks, they kept blacks as slaves. That they were granted freedom of slavery is a step in the right direction. Thats why the union is preferrable.

You're a stupid naive moron if you fall into this line of thinking. .

There is no non-White solidarity, it doesn't exist. Even Blacks and Hispanics riot against each other in prisons and in high schools.

Stay loyal to your own and leave it at that.