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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Is that even remotely possible? That Slavs are Balts + Scythian mix?
    It is possible. But for the first: it is needed to prove that Baltic languages (in general) are not "phantom".

    The question about Balto-Slavic language is not solved yet. All are just hypothesis.

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    Greeks called us Triballi (Serbs)

    The Triballi were a Thracian tribe that received influences from Celts, Scythians and Illyrians.

    2nd Greek historian said: The language on Danube people use is Scythian

    3rd Greek historian said: Ross, people of Scythian origin invaded Constantinople

    Basil the Great said: "Two Scythian tribes Serbs and Croats..."


    It is obvious that (even if we are not Scythians, that we use language of Scythians) aka Slavic language that emerged by mixing Baltic + Scythian language.

    But narrations are not enough, further exploration is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    On some Russian forums, the Latvians are placing the theory that basically there was no Balto-Slavic language, but that Balto-Slavic = Baltic. Altough, as i know, arguments for it are basic nonsenses.
    Due to the fact that you change the names of languages, the history of the language will not change. Title Balt is an artificial name. There were no Balts. So they were named in the walls of linguistic academies. Slavs were and originally so called themselves - the Slavs.

    I think that in antiquity at the beginning of the first millennium AD there lived many different similar Balto-Slavic groups. Then, in connection with globalization, the number of variations of dialects decreased and the language in different regions was homogenized. I believe that the Slavs migrated within the Baltoslavian language, this is from the Balkans to Russia, so we are genetically contrasted with Germanic languages ​​.. The final stage in the formation of the Slavic languages ​​was a large migration of Slavs from some place. I do not know where. There are 2 assumptions.
    1. The Balkan-Romania-Carpathians
    2. Polesie

    Slavic language was spread only in the environment of closely related Balto-Slavic dialects. Therefore, he was so quickly absorbed in the of Europe. Further, the Slavic language replaced all existing Balto-Slavic dialects and became homogeneous throughout the territory of the Slavs' residence. Lithuanians and Latvians did not touch upon the process of Slavization, since they lived in isolation in some bogs impassable, so their language was separated into a separate group.

    On the graph, my version roughly corresponds to the theory of Rozwadovsky.

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    Svarga (Sanskrit: स्वर्ग) also known as Swarga or Svarga Loka,

    Svarga Loka is a set of heavenly worlds located on and above Mt. Meru where the righteous live in paradise before their next incarnation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svarga

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    why peoples mixing? madness, you have French, Portuguese, English, Spanish or even German speaking Africa because of power influence rather than mixing, same happened back then, but there was no radio, tv or internet, so people added local words to vocabulary = dialects, Balts were far from the center of one influence but closer to Ugro-Finnic people, so their language took different direction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Svarga = Svarog
    Vishnji = Vishna
    Živa = Shiva

    Again, this only proves the mix and how our language emerged

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krivich View Post
    Due to the fact that you change the names of languages, the history of the language will not change.
    I don't claim anything. It's others who claim. I am opened for various assumptions.

    Title Balt is an artificial name. There were no Balts. So they were named in the walls of linguistic academies. Slavs were and originally so called themselves - the Slavs.
    If they are not mentioned, it doesn't mean that they didn't exist. But, on the other way we have a question: Does East Baltic and West Baltic unity actually exist (under the common name Balts), or those 2 are separated linguistic groups. Becouse, if they are, then the Slavic one is as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Svarga = Svarog
    Vishnji = Vishna
    Živa = Shiva

    Again, this only proves the mix and how our language emerged
    You can't proclaim just like that, what if Slavic separated from Balto-Slavic even before Iranians, and later come under influence?

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    Svaanik Kumar explains that I2a was closer to Sanskrit (he compares Sanskrit to South Slavic), so basically they can be called Slavic language owners, R1a were from different branch, they took influences, R1a are Slavic language users (like Celtic Irish people are Germanic English (I1) language users)


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    This Map tells a lot:

    Illyria and N.E. European Cultures had the longest border with Scythians.



    It is my opinion that Scythians have completely assimilated South-Eastern Balto-Slavic Group of peoples and created the language we call Slavic.

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