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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaglakar View Post
    Scythian is a generalized term of Steppe nomads. It is almost certain that Scythians did speak a single common tongue and did not comprise a single entity. Most likely there were not only dialectical variations but major language differences where Scythians living in one part of Eurasia would not be able to understand Scythians in another part of Eurasia.
    Thats true, Khotanese Saka was not the same as Scythian in Ukraine, on top there was numerous Baltic, Slavic and Finnic tribes living in the huge territory called Scythia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I am reading This book about Scythians (Herodotus)

    https://www.metmuseum.org/pubs/bulle...f.bannered.pdf

    There he says on page 4:

    Above the trading-port of the Borysthenites (Crimea/Ukraine region I believe)
    which is situated in the very centre of the whole sea-coast
    of Scythia, the first people who inhabit the land are the
    Callippidae, a Graeco-Scythic race.

    Very interesting, for Serbs today are Graeco-Scythic mix

    As i often mentioned myself the Greeks had contacts with Scythians from an early time and there are many accounts
    of it in Ancient Greek sources and many tales of famous Scythian indivuduals living in Greece.

    For example the Athenians employed Scythian policemen in their city because they thought they were less corruptable and more
    reliable and neutral than the local native policemen.

    A famous person of Scythian background was Arbaris


    Some Scythians tribes mixed with Greeks and adopted Greek customs also Hellenic religion

    You can find sources for this in Herodotus and many other Ancient Greek texts
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    As i often mentioned myself the Greeks had contacts with Scythians from an early time and there are many accounts
    of it in Ancient Greek sources and many tales of famous Scythian indivuduals living in Greece.

    For example the Athenians employed Scythian policemen in their city because they thought they were less corruptable and more
    reliable and neutral than the local native policemen.

    A famous person of Scythian background was Arbaris


    Some Scythians tribes mixed with Greeks and adopted Greek customs also Hellenic religion

    You can find sources for this in Herodotus and many other Ancient Greek texts
    I am comparing that what Herodotus wrote with Book of Veles (slavic work on Scythian history)

    For now I have found similar stories about 3 founders who brought 3 initial kingdoms that coincede with Greek Heracles and Skilla that brought to him 3 sons from whom Scythians descend..

    It seems that Book of Veles might not be "a forgery" as modern historians say

    I'll investigate further

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I am comparing that what Herodotus wrote with Book of Veles (slavic work on Scythian history)

    For now I have found similar stories about 3 founders who brought 3 initial kingdoms that coincede with Greek Heracles and Skilla that brought to him 3 sons from whom Scythians descend..

    It seems that Book of Veles might not be "a forgery" as modern historians say

    I'll investigate further
    Thats interesting

    Yes there were Scythian tribes claiming to be descendants of Heraclis predominantly those living
    around the Black Sea region.


    When and in which Slavic culture was the Book of Veles written?

    Is it an old Slavic epic text of similar kind to the Hindu Veddic texts and Upanishads?
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Thats interesting

    Yes there were Scythian tribes claiming to be descendants of Heraclis predominantly those living
    around the Black Sea region.


    When and in which Slavic culture was the Book of Veles written?

    Is it an old Slavic epic text of similar kind to the Hindu Veddic texts and Upanishads?
    That's just a myth

    Herodotus claims that that's false... it's narrated by Greeks from Pontus.

    Scythians came from East, they conquered Cimmerians.. apparently Azov and everything north was Cimmerian (whatever that was)

    It's extremely hard to read Herodotus who is using Hellenic names for everything.

    Slavic books on other hand use Slavic terms exclusively ... etc..

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    Thraco-Cimmerian settlements from 8th century B.C according to Soviet Historians

    South Slavs?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Thats interesting

    Yes there were Scythian tribes claiming to be descendants of Heraclis predominantly those living
    around the Black Sea region.


    When and in which Slavic culture was the Book of Veles written?

    Is it an old Slavic epic text of similar kind to the Hindu Veddic texts and Upanishads?
    It's written on Wood, old slavic language of some kind. I recognize a lot of letters similar to modern Cyrillic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    It's written on Wood, old slavic language of some kind. I recognize a lot of letters similar to modern Cyrillic.

    Alot of letters there seem the same with Greek letters

    I recognise Epislon Delta Δ δ Eta Η η Pi Π πι Psi Ψ ψ Beta Β β Ro Ρ ρ Gamma Γ γ in this text to name just a few.

    Most of them being in capital form but i see Gamma in minor form.

    See also here to compare
    http://platonicrealms.com/encyclopedia/Greek-alphabet
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Alot of letters there seem the same with Greek letters

    I recognise Epislon Delta Δ Eta Η Pi Π Psi Ψ Beta Β Ro Ρ in this text to name just a few
    Well those letters are also found in Vinča 5000+ B.C. that's period when Hellenes were not present in Greece.

    Thracians, Celts are the oldest people who used Latin like Alphabet, also if you take into consideration that Thraco-Cimmerians existed and that Thracians mixed with Scythians...

    well you can guess how they exchanged and used Alphabet from each other.

    Greeks also had Several Archaic Alphabets in USE and letters evolved through period.

    So it's not reasonable to say that Π (Pi) is a Greek letter cause it may be a loan from Thracians or some other pra-ancient Peoples.

    Greeks are the oldest people with written history, but many did not write a lot, and we can thank Herodotus for Greek history.

    Orthodox Church and any Church is enforcing the fact that Greeks gave literacy to practically all Slavs cause Greeks were not Pagans.

    Church wanted to destroy anything that pre-date Church (3rd century and before that) to put all eyes on Greeks and Christianity.

    For if anyone proves there was a civilization before Greeks.. then there were Gods before Christian Gods in steppes and balkans.

    (I am talking about Slavic peoples).

    The policy of Church (and Politics with it) is : "Don't look back, don't look at anything before Christianity", they burned many Slavic books for "Paganism"

    and that's how Slavic history vanished into thin AIR.

    Book of Veles barely survived Christian prosecution.

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