Slavs are Scythians

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Neither you nor the Slavic guy Valtko understand what i'm saying.

If someone of you would realy care and read a ancient Greek source about Scythian tribes all this confusion would vanish

Do you understand that Greeks called Scythians both your people and the Proto Slavic people Vlatko was talking about as well?

There were many different Scythians tribes also with different physical appearences

Some of them were in Europe others were not European

They were diverse

What i'm pointing at is that the ancestors of modern Slavs and Balts were a part of these tribal groups known to Greeks as Scythians not that they were
the same with all other tribes called Scythians such as North Caucasians or Saka in Asia

Yes, but you shouldn't say: "There was no ancient Slavs", since they were formed even most likely 3nd century BC.

[Gangrel]

Afghanistan is a stretch.

Is it really?

[Bosniensis]

Yes, but you shouldn't say: "There was no ancient Slavs", since they were formed even most likely 3nd century BC.

Do you understand how Scythians lived?

They had a mobile community of steppe horse raiders + they had a stationary communities on river banks usually who provided them with food etc..

Scythians were mix of Turks, Iranic, Germanic and Slavic peoples (all mixed) who did not have any ethnicity or identity but rather they would pick the strongest warrior among them

to lead them.

Out of those farmers and stationary (non-Nomadic) Scythians ... Slavs came to be.

Well I have last night read 500 years old Byzantine Document where it was written on Greek (Basil II has invited Scythian delegation of Serbs and Croats).

So there is no DOUBT that Slavs used to be recognized as Scythians and that Scythians are ancestors of Slavs.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Do you understand how Scythians lived?

They had a mobile community of steppe horse raiders + they had a stationary communities on river banks usually who provided them with food etc..

Scythians were mix of Turks, Iranic, Germanic and Slavic peoples (all mixed) who did not have any ethnicity or identity but rather they would pick the strongest warrior among them

to lead them.

Out of those farmers and stationary (non-Nomadic) Scythians ... Slavs came to be.

Well I have last night read 500 years old Byzantine Document where it was written on Greek (Basil II has invited Scythian delegation of Serbs and Croats).

So there is no DOUBT that Slavs used to be recognized as Scythians and that Scythians are ancestors of Slavs.

But that is how others called them. They never recognize this name.

[Bosniensis]

But that is how others called them. They never recognize this name.

Of course not.

Neither Illyrians, Thracians called themselves with that name.

Problem is that we must explore history through hellenic eyes, and that's not easy.

They have hellenized all Slavic words that they encountered.


Niketas Choniates (or Acominatus, 1155–1215 or-16) in his history about Emperor Ioannes Komnenos: "... Shortly after this, he campaigned against the nation of Triballians (whom someone may call Serbians as well) ..."[25] or the much later Demetrios Chalkondyles (1423–1511), referring to an Islamized Christian noble: "... This Mahmud, son of Michael, is Triballian, which means Serbian, by his mother, and Greek by his father."[26] or Mehmed the Conqueror when referring to the plundering of Serbia.

They called us Triballians ffs..

They themselves were confused about our Scythian and Illyrian orgin where they called us sometimes "Scytians, Slavs" and sometime Illyrians, Tribalians and that means we were obviously mixed.

[Tauromachos]

Do you understand how Scythians lived?

They had a mobile community of steppe horse raiders + they had a stationary communities on river banks usually who provided them with food etc..

Scythians were mix of Turks, Iranic, Germanic and Slavic peoples (all mixed) who did not have any ethnicity or identity but rather they would pick the strongest warrior among them

to lead them.

Out of those farmers and stationary (non-Nomadic) Scythians ... Slavs came to be.

Well I have last night read 500 years old Byzantine Document where it was written on Greek (Basil II has invited Scythian delegation of Serbs and Croats).

So there is no DOUBT that Slavs used to be recognized as Scythians and that Scythians are ancestors of Slavs.

This^

[LezginMBD]

Is it really?

If i was to go to Kabul I would stick out like a sore thumb, so yes its a stretch.

[Yaglakar]

Scythian is a generalized term of Steppe nomads. It is almost certain that Scythians did speak a single common tongue and did not comprise a single entity. Most likely there were not only dialectical variations but major language differences where Scythians living in one part of Eurasia would not be able to understand Scythians in another part of Eurasia.

[Dragoon]

Scythian is a generalized term of Steppe nomads. It is almost certain that Scythians did speak a single common tongue and did not comprise a single entity. Most likely there were not only dialectical variations but major language differences where Scythians living in one part of Eurasia would not be able to understand Scythians in another part of Eurasia.

Agreed that they were a large group spanning large distance. Even the later Khazars were not only Turkic (because they expanded land).
You mention: common tongue but differences in dialect.
So kinda like Polish vs Russian, or German vs English? (although Scythians were Iranic)?

[Bosniensis]

This^

I am reading This book about Scythians (Herodotus)

https://www.metmuseum.org/pubs/bulle...f.bannered.pdf

There he says on page 4:

Above the trading-port of the Borysthenites (Crimea/Ukraine region I believe)
which is situated in the very centre of the whole sea-coast
of Scythia, the first people who inhabit the land are the
Callippidae, a Graeco-Scythic race.

Very interesting, for Serbs today are Graeco-Scythic mix