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Thread: The Shroud of Turin: Physical Proof of the Existence, Resurrection, and Divinity of Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larali View Post
    I'm not sure if it matters whether the shroud is legitimately Jesus'. If you believe what Jesus said then you shouldn't need physical evidence.

    So it actually is a real death shroud, then? It looks so fake to me.
    Yes, it is. It's pretty amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessio View Post
    It's poetry, just like how many Bible stories are using metaphores and analogies to enforce a certain point. I let everyone interpret the tree how ever they want. Don't say the story of Adam and Eve makes much sense when reading it literally.

    I don't agree with all the evidence for Jesus' ressurection, his existence and that people have no excuse when they deny his divinity and eternal message. You need to be a scholar almost to understand some of the historical ''proofs'' and a theologian to partially understand the NT let alone the relationship between the OT and NT and why one would have to believe the NT because of what is written in the OT. It's extremely confusing for a layman and I understand why people think Christianity doesn't necessarily have to be true revelation from God/Jaweh because some 1st century documents, theologians and the Vatican says so.
    Jesus's resurrection is a fact, hundreds of people witnessed the risen Jesus before he went to heaven. It is an attested historical fact.

    Christianity IS the true revelation of God. You just have to open your eyes and look to see the overwhelming evidence for it. Unfortunately people have been brainwashed so much by skeptics, that they blindly believe them without investigating for themselves.

    You can search on YouTube "I have seen Jesus", and you will find tons of sincere, believable testimonies of people who have seen the risen Christ. I know people who have seen him too, who are close to me. It is happening more and more, as the end approaches. And not only believers see him, but even people in countries with no Christian tradition, are coming to Christ through supernatural means, like Buddhists and Hindus.

    And no, it's a lie that you need to be a scholar to understand these things.
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    The Old Testament, which was written hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus, clearly prophesy his coming, life, death and immortal kingdom to come. There are some old testament books that are so clear about Jesus, that the Jews have removed them from the Hebrew Bible, in an attempt to quash Christianity. But God ordained that they survived... I've read it myself and will make threads about it so you can believe that Jesus is the promised Messiah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larali View Post
    I'm not sure if it matters whether the shroud is legitimately Jesus'. If you believe what Jesus said then you shouldn't need physical evidence.

    So it actually is a real death shroud, then? It looks so fake to me.
    It looks fake? How so? How do you know what a "real" shroud would look like? But in any case, this one would be exceptional since the power of God from the resurrection probably caused an imprint on the cloth, more than usual.
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    I am on the fence with the shroud of Turin. But I don't need this to validate my faith. I know God is real, and I have felt the Holy Spirit and my relationship is growing with HIM. That is really all that matters.

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    I don't believe the shroud is Jesus. It could be someone else. We already know that Jesus awoke from the dead, and the stone was rolled away. That's all the proof we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    I don't believe the shroud is Jesus. It could be someone else. We already know that Jesus awoke from the dead, and the stone was rolled away. That's all the proof we need.
    I am fairly certain it is. While we don't need any more evidence, it doesn't mean the shroud isn't that of Jesus. There are many evidences pointing to Jesus, and the shroud is just one of them, and I am sure God has a purpose with that... it convicts and convinces certain people who are not reached otherwise. So don't judge God's methods...
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    Also here are links for your personal research on the Shroud
    Here is a link to the TSC
    https://www.shroudofturin.com/

    And further research material:



    • DIBATTITO SULLA SACRA SINDONE - GIULI... 51:59
    https://0201.nccdn.net/1_2/000/000/10...
    https://www.shroudresearch.net/hproxy...
    https://magiscenter.com/wp-content/up...
    https://www.shroudofturin.com/Resourc...
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    https://www.shroudofturin.com/founder...


    • “Overview of the Shroud” by Robert Si...


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