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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    That area is dominantly Kurdish though, but very close to where my parents come from. I got 80% similarity with one Iranian that lived 6000 - 7000 years ago.
    Yeah, but I guess there are some Persians living there. My doctor was also an Iranian Kurd till she left the hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Its found among Iranians, go read the link you stubborn Finn
    Of you mean those wikipedia numbers. If you check a little closer all of those numbers are from papers from 10 years ago. It was pretty common in those days to test only some few basic snippets, which meant you got Ks etc popping up all over the place from Germany to China. If they test those same samples today I'm pretty sure they come out as R1b or something like that. Well it's of course not wrong to call R1b as P1b1b1b1b1b1b1b1... or some shit like that, but I'm pretty confident those Ps in Iran are not any kind of basal Ps.

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    Undifferentiated race. The early representatives of R1a had the features of all races at once. Later representatives of this haplogroup became the basis of the European race and the first carriers of the Indo-European language. It also remained in Asia, in the supermongholoid Yakuts R1a 80%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Of you mean those wikipedia numbers. If you check a little closer all of those numbers are from papers from 10 years ago. It was pretty common in those days to test only some few basic snippets, which meant you got Ks etc popping up all over the place from Germany to China. If they test those same samples today I'm pretty sure they come out as R1b or something like that. Well it's of course not wrong to call R1b as P1b1b1b1b1b1b1b1... or some shit like that, but I'm pretty confident those Ps in Iran are not any kind of basal Ps.
    What would R1b do that early in Iran and that far South? AFAIK there was EHG intrusions into Northern Iran coming from the Kura Araxes culture, however that occured at least 2000 years later at least. I'm not denying it could be R1b or whatever, but nothing is certain yet.

    It still puzzles me they found one individual with P1, although its Early Neolithic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Early Neolithic Iranian with P1, so go shove your shit up your ass again please;



    He is even from my region lul
    That does not mean it's basal P. It's just means that the sample is either Q or some clade of R1a or R1b but they are not sure so they jut named it P1 until further investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    That does not mean it's basal P. It's just means that the sample is either Q or some clade of R1a or R1b but they are not sure so they jut named it P1 until further investigation.
    Then there's very few individuals with P, I can't find much info about it, maps with Q and R shows up instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Early Neolithic Iranian with P1, so go shove your shit up your ass again please;



    He is even from my region lul
    Apparently this guy was actually R2a-Y3399

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiperyum View Post
    i think they are caucasian. native americans, turks, koreans, japans, chinese split from europeans and they mixed with mongolians and tibet peoples. this is why they are looks like asian phenotype and some asians have white skin. this is my theory.

    i think Q, O, N looking white. later they mixing with tibet D and mongolian C this is reason why they are looking asian.

    only real early asians are D (Tibetian) C (Mongolian) Native American also have C hablogroup too. but they not looking so much asian? they have big nose and their eyes not so slanted. why?
    To be honest your argumentation doesn't appear very convincing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Apparently this guy was actually R2a-Y3399
    The question is where R2 originated then, its a descendant of P

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