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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    You realize some of the tribes there are Iranian ? Shabana is not an Arabian tribal name for example. Real Bedouins don't score Iranian. They are mixed. Explain my mom's result why she is close to Saudis and shows no Iranian but rather Egyptian and Yemeni like shift ?
    So like this one?

    Western Iraqi:

    1 East_Med 36.81
    2 West_Asian 22.72
    3 Red_Sea 13.92
    4 West_Med 8.95
    5 South_Asian 5.51
    6 North_Atlantic 3.39
    7 Sub-Saharan 2.35
    8 Baltic 1.85
    9 Siberian 1.68
    10 Northeast_African 1.41
    11 East_Asian 1.19
    12 Oceanian 0.13
    13 Amerindian 0.1

    Syrian 5.29

    64.4% Palestinian + 35.6% Iranian @ 3.58

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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    You realize some of the tribes there are Iranian ? Shabana is not an Arabian tribal name for example. Real Bedouins don't score Iranian. They are mixed. Explain my mom's result why she is close to Saudis and shows no Iranian but rather Egyptian and Yemeni like shift ?
    Iranians have been in Iraq way before Bedouins, you know better then most that bedouins are new arrivals in Iraq, only since mongol Invasion.

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    The samples from the Iraqi Project, sampled and tested by an Iraqi Arab himself btw most of them show clear Iranian shift, some are even more Iranian than Bedouin in the mixed mode and it's not few samples either.
    Iraqi Bedouins are insignificant in this context, they make up less than 5% of the total Arab population in Iraq.

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    Here are my results:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 31.55
    2 West_Asian 29.96
    3 Red_Sea 11.86
    4 West_Med 8.44
    5 South_Asian 7.75
    6 North_Atlantic 4.21
    7 Baltic 2.79
    8 Northeast_African 2.56

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Azeri @ 9.863974
    2 Turkish @ 10.285886
    3 Georgian_Jewish @ 11.178029
    4 Assyrian @ 11.380733
    5 Iranian @ 11.423591
    6 Iranian_Jewish @ 11.522337
    7 Kurdish_Jewish @ 12.245466
    8 Kurdish @ 12.628536
    9 Syrian @ 12.739319
    10 Lebanese_Muslim @ 13.304923
    11 Armenian @ 13.656355
    12 Jordanian @ 17.516115
    13 Cyprian @ 19.704109
    14 Palestinian @ 19.944553
    15 Lebanese_Druze @ 20.613678
    16 Lebanese_Christian @ 21.121506
    17 Bedouin @ 21.216579
    18 Samaritan @ 21.340792
    19 Turkmen @ 21.684717
    20 Kumyk @ 23.381710

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Iranian +50% Syrian @ 3.525931

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kurdish +25% Saudi +25% Turkish @ 3.448715

    I can provide 23andme results if you are interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarzian View Post
    Iranians have been in Iraq way before Bedouins, you know better then most that bedouins are new arrivals in Iraq, only since mongol Invasion.
    The bulk of the population of modern day Iraq is post-Mongol invasions. Which is why Iraqi Arabs turn out as a mix of Iranians/Kurds + Bedouins and not say Mandean/Assyrian/Iraqi Jewish + Bedouin. There's no Mesopotamian blood in modern Iraqi Arabs, not even those from around Mosul and Tigrit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    The samples from the Iraqi Project, sampled and tested by an Iraqi Arab himself btw most of them show clear Iranian shift, some are even more Iranian than Bedouin in the mixed mode and it's not few samples either.
    Iraqi Bedouins are insignificant in this context, they make up less than 5% of the total Arab population in Iraq.
    We can safely say they're a mix of Iranians and natives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarzian View Post
    Iranians have been in Iraq way before Bedouins, you know better then most that bedouins are new arrivals in Iraq, only since mongol Invasion.
    Exactly, thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    So like this one?

    Western Iraqi:

    1 East_Med 36.81
    2 West_Asian 22.72
    3 Red_Sea 13.92
    4 West_Med 8.95
    5 South_Asian 5.51
    6 North_Atlantic 3.39
    7 Sub-Saharan 2.35
    8 Baltic 1.85
    9 Siberian 1.68
    10 Northeast_African 1.41
    11 East_Asian 1.19
    12 Oceanian 0.13
    13 Amerindian 0.1

    Syrian 5.29

    64.4% Palestinian + 35.6% Iranian @ 3.58
    No this guy or girl has some Iranian ancestry, and probably Kurdish.

    It would be more like this:

    50% Saudi 50% Yemenite Jew
    60% Yemenite Jew 30% Palestinian
    50% Saudi 25% Lebanese Muslim 25% Palestinian
    49% Egyptian 25% Yemeni 26% Palestinian
    50% Yemeni 25% Yemenite Jew 25% Lebanese Muslim

    This would be more accurate and this how my mom scores lol.
    My genetic results
    1 50% Azeri_Dagestan +50% BedouinA @ 2.879975


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    Using Iraqi bedouins to generalize the entire Iraqi population isn't very accurate anyways since they're very little in number and live in isolated locations. Its like using Persian lurs to determine the average Iranian dna lmao. There's no denying strong Iranian influence all over Iraq culturally, genetically, and even to an extent, linguistically.

    Dude, even sunni arabs score some type of Iranian ancestry lol.

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