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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Idiot, do yourself a favor and stop commenting on every thread about Macedonians!
    Not every Slavic toponym in the Balkans is of Serbian origin...
    You know, this world is not Serbian and the Serbs are not the oldest people in the world, not even original Slavs...
    Even the very name "Serb" is probably of non Slavic origin but likely Iranic.
    Idiot, worry about places like Croatia, Bosnia or Montenegro, where your people dwelled throughout history and which are the real fatherland of yours.
    You have nothing to do with Macedonia, keep that in mind!

    I worry about all Serbian derived peoples, even your Vlachs!

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    Macedonia Govt Submits Constitutional Changes for ‘Name’ Deal

    http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...nts-11-02-2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Albanians did arrive to Serbia in 1043AD via Drach. The Shqiptars were a mercenary division of the Romans, who brought them over from Sicily to fight against Serbs. Robert Elsie, a well known Albanianologist agrees with this, it's a fact that cannot be denied. Regarding Dalmat, Bessi and Dardan, these ancient names are not Albanian, just to repeat, Shqiptars are only recorded to have entered into Drach, Serbia after 1043AD.

    The name Alba-nia means nothing in Shqiptarisht, it's a Roman Exoymn meaning WHITE derived from the Albanianised town called Berat, previously known as Belgrad. Romans knew the meaning of Belgrad, hence they began calling them Alba nians. It's really interesting to know that the original name the newly arrived Shqiptars acquired was from the Serbian Raban, Serbs called them rabanasi, later the Shqiptars morphed the name into arbanasi.

    Regarding Dalmatia, Dardania etc.....I want you to learn about the Wendish Sorb/Serb sub-tribe known as: DALEMINCI.

    Language, Shqiptarisht is a compiled language of borrowings, mainly from SERBIAN, GREEK & LATIN with some Caucasus lingo (ARMENIAN RELATED).

    Genetics, Shqiptars have ALBANIANISED many peoples during Ottoman rule. Remember Shqiptars were 40 grand viziers, look it up and learn!
    You have probably got to be the most retarded Serb on this forum. Elsie didn't believe that, he clearly stated that Albanians came from Paleo-Balkan groups, probably Illyrians. The fact that you choose to believe a theory that has been called obsolete by everyone shows your IQ. You clearly don't understand linguistics or genetics. You're a joke, lets just leave it at that. Btw are you from Novi Pazar?
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    ^ then Elsie is contradicting himself? Why are documents on his website Kelmendasi referring to 1043AD? Please Mr Madhe Shqiptuar advocate, look in the mirror and lie to yourself. Shqiptars have nothing in Serbia and Serbia (Shqiperia) prior to 1043AD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    You have probably got to be the most retarded Serb on this forum. Elsie didn't believe that, he clearly stated that Albanians came from Paleo-Balkan groups, probably Illyrians. The fact that you choose to believe a theory that has been called obsolete by everyone shows your IQ. You clearly don't understand linguistics or genetics. You're a joke, lets just leave it at that. Btw are you from Novi Pazar?
    He is actually serbian gypsy from Kosove, an Ashkali in other words.

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    with Macedonians I suppose it's like with Moldovans: neverending debate over this:

    - are Moldovans actually Slavicized Vlachs or Vlachicized Slavs? (+ the question 'Are Moldovans Romanian?')

    - are Macedonians actually Slavicized Hellenes or Hellenized Slavs? (+ the question 'Are Macedonians Bulgarian?')



    even genetically Moldovans are about 50-50. dunno bout Macedonians vs Greeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    He is actually serbian gypsy from Kosove, an Ashkali in other words.
    How do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    ^ then Elsie is contradicting himself? Why are documents on his website Kelmendasi referring to 1043AD? Please Mr Madhe Shqiptuar advocate, look in the mirror and lie to yourself. Shqiptars have nothing in Serbia and Serbia (Shqiperia) prior to 1043AD!
    Again you shoot yourself in the foot like the retard that you are. Elsie posted all documents he could find about Albanians, even anti-Albanian ones, but in his books he gives his stance on the matter and it's clear that he believes that Albanians are descended from Illyrians. Listen here you dumb Ashkali, the fact that you choose to believe a theory that has been obsolete for years and is only backed by a place name shows your level of IQ. Ashkali like you have nothing to do with Serbia. Genetics and linguistics have shown that we are native here, whilst your Ashkal ancestors came from northern India
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    ^ anti Shqiptar? Your history begins in 1043AD Caucasus scum! So please, l don't need to read your twisted Madhe Shqiperia garbage!

    Okay Kelmendasi what does Illyria mean in Shqiptarisht? Ilir (FREE)? So some random coincidence? Your a Shqiptar with superior knowledge, so please, teach this sub human Serbian the story why the ancient Shqiptars are free (ilir) and why were they 'FREE' and from whom were they 'FREE' from, to begin to name a region and its inhabitants ilir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    How do you know?

    Because they don't, l hail from the Kosovan SISKOVICI TRIBE!

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