Iranians, Afghans, Pakistanis, and Indians are the only Aryans

[Babak]

WHERE DO ARYANS COME FROM?

According to their scriptures, the homeland of the Aryans was modern day Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Northern India.
Sixteen perfect lands created by Ahura Mazda, and as many plagues created by Angra Mainyu.

Ahura Mazda spake unto Spitama Zarathushtra, saying:

1: I have made every land dear (to its people), even though it had no charms whatever in it

2: had I not made every land dear (to its people), even though it had no charms whatever in it, then the whole living world would have invaded the Airyana Vaeja.

3: The first of the good lands and countries which I, Ahura Mazda, created, was the Airyana Vaeja, by the Vanguhi Daitya. (Avesta: Vendidad: Fargard 1)
The footnote to this translation states that
Airyanem Vaeja, Iran-Vej, is the holy land of Zoroastrianism: Zarathushtra was born and founded his religion there (Bund. 20.32; 32.3). From its name, ‘the Iranian seed,’ it seems to have been considered as the original seat of the Iranian race.

It has been generally supposed to belong to Eastern Iran, like the provinces which are enumerated after it, chiefly on account of the name of its river, the Vanguhi Daitya, which was in the Sassanian times (as Veh) the name of the Oxus.

But the Bundahish distinctly states that Iran-Vej is ‘bordering upon Adarbajan [Azerbaijan]‘ (29.12)… [1]
To settle the confusion of eastern versus northern Iranian plateau, we have Strabo, who in his Geography says that Eratosthenes so defined Ariana:
‘Ariana,’ he says, is bounded on the east by the Indus, on the south by the Great Sea, on the north by the Paropamisus and the succeeding chain of mountains as far as the Caspian Gates, on the west by the same limits by which the territory of the Parthians is separated from Media, and Carmania from Parætacene and Persia. (Strabo’s Geography)




In the Vedas, Aryavarta (Land of the Noble Ones) is extended as far as the Bay of Bengal:
The Manusmṛti (2.22) gives the name [Aryavarta] to “the tract between the Himalaya and the Vindhya ranges, from the Eastern Sea (Bay of Bengal) to the Western Sea (Arabian Sea)”.[2]



Aryan Homelands (Indus River in blue represents border between Aryanem Vaeja and Arya Varta)




Aryans did indeed migrate out of their homelands- most likely not as conquerors, but as people wielding “soft” power- cultural, spiritual and technological influence. As the more developed culture, their language(s), spiritual systems, and cultural mores dominated the new the new hybrid cultures they fostered by moving north. According to Indologist Giacomo Benedetti,
If there were ‘cultural ties’, they should have spoken a common language, and why not Indo-Iranian as in the later centuries, the same language of the names of the rivers and mountains of that region, when not substituted by Turkic words? Moreover, if we look at the textual traditions, in the Avesta we have the Airyas as a settled people, living on agriculture and stockbreeding, opposed to the Tuiryas (remained as Turanians in the Iranian tradition), who are nomads (but also bearing Iranian names), exactly the situation that we find in the late Bronze Age and in the Iron Age in Central Asia, with steppe pastoralists in contact with the settled agriculturists of a tradition of millennia of sedentary civilization, well reflected also in the Shahnameh of Firdusi. If the Aryans were the nomads from the steppe, the situation in the Avesta and Firdusi should be completely opposite. Not only, in the hymns of the Avesta (e.g. Yt. 5) the ancient Iranian heroes are often associated with mountains, including the progenitor Yima, who is described as offering a sacrifice on the Hukairya mountain, which is probably in Pamir. Whence came these traditions if they came from the northern flatlands? [13]

So, if we combine Iranian texts and archaeology, we suspect that the Aryans are actually the heirs of the Central-South Asian Neolithic tradition, and not of the steppe nomads, who normally are absorbed by the superior culture of the sedentary civilizations,
The contrast between the southern Aryan culture and that of the steppes- home of the Scythians, for example, who undeservedly show up in Aryan origin hypotheses- and who had the capacity to influence whom is clear in Benedetti’s analysis
“The steppe pastoralists in the Iron Age learned from the agriculturists: for instance, in the Tagisken mausoleums on the Syr Darya, they used bricks, obviously unknown in the steppes, but so typical of the southern civilization, since the Neolithic Mehrgarh in Baluchistan…” [13]
“Around 3800 BC in Baluchistan (where we find the technologically most advanced pottery tradition of Eastern Iran) appeared the earliest grey ware, which spread over the Indus plain but also westward to the whole of the Helmand valley, Bampur and Kerman.” [13]


ARE “EUROPEANS” ARYAN?

No.

Aside from random chance, West Asians (“Europeans”) do not descend from Aryans.

[Babak]

ARYANS WERE NOT NORDIC

There is even less basis for the conflation of Aryans and Nordics (blonde hair & blue eyes).
Our knowledge of these “Aryans” is sketchy, and there’s still a lot to be determined about them, both through anthropological and archaeological research. But we can be quite sure that they bore no direct relation to the modern inhabitants of Germany and Scandinavia. [6]
Another distinctive race has yet to be accounted for–the tall, fair, blue-eyed, long-headed Northerners, represented by the Scandinavians of the present day… How dark eyes became grey or blue, and dark hair red or sandy, is a problem yet to be solved.

The ancestors of this fair race are believed to have been originally distributed along the northern Eur-Asian plateaus; Keane’s blonde long-headed Chudes and the Wu-suns in Chinese Turkestan are classed as varieties of the ancient Northern stock. [7]
In short, Nordics (blond, blue-eyed) are not from the Aryan homeland. Only by coincidence did Nordicism and interest in the Aryans arise at the same time. It was a mistake to ever have merged them.


THEN WHAT WAS THE ARYAN RACE?

The Aryans did have what we now call a “race”, and we know what it is.

However before exploring that, it is important to remember that “race” (skin color, ethnicity) did not matter to the Aryans, and they were not a “master race”.

According to Rg Veda translator Kant Singh, “If you believe Griffith’s or even Jamison and Brereton’s translation (Oxford Univ. Press,2014), the Rigveda is a racist document”. However, he goes on to argue, this is due to gross mistranslations that are so inaccurate they could only have been intentional.

Looking further into Aryan scripture, though, we do find some accurate information about their appearance.

[Kamal900]

Bro, you forgot Nepalese(Khas people) and Bangladeshis who are also Aryans. I remember reading an Arab conquerer back in Iran proclaiming that Persians are Aryans and etc. He was half Persian himself. Persians are genetically mostly native Iranians which is true for Kurds and etc. Azeris maybe Turkic with some Siberian admixture but they're very closely related to Kurds and Persians. Greets to all my Aryan friends and doctors that helped me coop with my mental disorder.

[Khamzat]

Only north west indians aka Punjabis and Kashmiris are Aryan, northern india used be the land from east Pakistan to around himachal Pradesh, the vast majority of modern northern india isnt part of ancient north india also known as Aryavarta so most northern indians aren't Aryan either.

[Kivan]

India Über Alles.

[Khamzat]

Bro, you forgot Nepalese(Khas people) and Bangladeshis who are also Aryans. I remember reading an Arab conquerer back in Iran proclaiming that Persians are Aryans and etc. He was half Persian himself. Persians are genetically mostly native Iranians which is true for Kurds and etc. Azeris maybe Turkic with some Siberian admixture but they're very closely related to Kurds and Persians. Greets to all my Aryan friends and doctors that helped me coop with my mental disorder.

Speaking indo iranian languages doesn't make you Aryan, the people who's ancestors called themselves Aryan are Aryan. Iranians called themselves Aryans, the ancestors of modern day Pakistanis called themselves Aryans, Bangladeshis never did so aren't simple.

[Kamal900]

Speaking indo iranian languages doesn't make you Aryan, the people who's ancestors called themselves Aryan are Aryan. Iranians called themselves Aryans, the ancestors of modern day Pakistanis called themselves Aryans, Bangladeshis never did so aren't simple.

Bengalis, who are Indo-Aryans themselves, make up around 98% of the country dude. Yes, being an Aryan is about linguistic affiliation similar to being hispanic or arabic and so on. Persians are Aryans because of their linguistic affiliation regardless on the fact that Persians are genetically far more closer to non-Aryan groups of the middle east than to South Asians as a whole.

[Hadouken]

doesnt mean anything . iranians and indians for example are genetically and phenotypically far apart

we wuz aryanz n shiet

[Khamzat]

Bengalis, who are Indo-Aryans themselves, make up around 98% of the country dude. Yes, being an Aryan is about linguistic affiliation similar to being hispanic or arabic and so on. Persians are Aryans because of their linguistic affiliation regardless on the fact that Persians are genetically far more closer to non-Aryan groups of the middle east than to South Asians as a whole.

Aryan was a self designation by a group of people around south central asia and west asia, they didn't need to share genetics to call themselves Aryan. Bengalis never called themselves Aryan so in my opinion they aren't Aryan.

[Kukushka]

Brown aryan master race.