DarkWater's LM GENETICS K36 Report

[Grace O'Malley]

Is your whole family from ireland?

Also, which part of the test is the second part you posted, the guassian method?

Yes Gaussian is the first one. Yes they are all Irish. I don't have any known family born outside Ireland that I have found.

[Lucas]

I hope you don't mind me posting mine. My is similar to my mother's with some slight differences. It is interesting if you compare what populations get as if you see enough of these you can usually tell if people are English or Irish from looking at their maps. So they are pretty accurate.



Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ireland @ 6,367809
2 Wales @ 6,809941
3 Orkney @ 7,289738
4 Northern_Ireland @ 8,081043
5 Scotland @ 8,936453
6 England_South-West @ 9,729645
7 Cumbria @ 10,094877
8 Dutch_Overijssel @ 10,180658
9 England_North-West @ 10,435487
10 England_North-East @ 10,65575 379 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Ireland+Wales @ 6,224287
2 Ireland+Ireland @ 6,367809
3 Ireland+Orkney @ 6,502647
4 Ireland+Scotland @ 6,560984
5 Scotland+Wales @ 6,756545
6 Wales+Wales @ 6,809941
7 Orkney+Wales @ 6,874783
8 Dutch_Overijssel+Ireland @ 6,913292
9 Ireland+Northern_Ireland @ 6,925951
10 Iceland+Ireland @ 7,057088
72010 iterations.

Gaussian method. Noise dispersion set to 0,130062
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Northern_Ireland @ 3,479599
2 Wales @ 3,513273
3 Ireland @ 3,551729
4 England_North-East @ 3,747501
5 Orkney @ 3,793552
6 Niedersachsen @ 3,797007
7 Mecklenburg-Vorpommern @ 3,882607
8 Pommern @ 4,007316
9 England_North-West @ 4,016795
10 Cumbria @ 4,139308
379 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Pommern+England_North-East @ 3,384043
2 Pommern+Ireland @ 3,388461
3 Niedersachsen+Ireland @ 3,413837
4 Niedersachsen+England_North-East @ 3,435266
5 Oberland(western_Ost_Preussen)+England_North-East @ 3,435373
6 Pommern+Northern_Ireland @ 3,438854
7 Mecklenburg-Vorpommern+Ireland @ 3,447884
8 Mecklenburg-Vorpommern+Wales @ 3,457315
9 Mecklenburg-Vorpommern+Northern_Ireland @ 3,469713
10 Niedersachsen+Northern_Ireland @ 3,474161
72010 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ireland +25% Ireland +25% Kashubians @ 3,255236
2 50% Ireland +25% Northern_Ireland +25% Kashubians @ 3,291112
3 50% Ireland +25% England_North-East +25% Kashubians @ 3,295478
4 50% Northern_Ireland +25% Ireland +25% Kashubians @ 3,320582
5 50% England_North-East +25% Ireland +25% Kashubians @ 3,322462
6 50% England_North-East +25% FR_Brittany +25% Kashubians @ 3,325281
7 50% England_North-East +25% England_North-East +25% Kashubians @ 3,326135

Some of these places I'm not even sure where they are. I did look some of them up before.

You have to be aware that even if you are 100% of given nartionality, such oracle MUST show something besides Ireland+Ireland at other positions.

[Grace O'Malley]

You have to be aware that even if you are 100% of given nartionality, such oracle MUST show something besides Ireland+Ireland at other positions.

Yes of course. That would be boring anyway. I have a fairly basic knowledge of how it works and I've found your reports very accurate with placing where people are from. Much more finer detail than any other service.

[DarkWater]

You have to be aware that even if you are 100% of given nartionality, such oracle MUST show something besides Ireland+Ireland at other positions.

Hey LukaszM, I have a question.

Do you think it is just be coincidence that Norb, Grace, and I all got Hesse as our top region inside Germany??

Could your samples there have some British influence or something? I know Frankfurt is like the banking center of Germany, I am sure there are a lot of Brits there

[Lucas]

Hmm. Hessen average is from few results but I assure you with only Hessen ancestry (Gedcom tree and one person tell me it). But yes it has rather more NW position consdidering its geography. I don't know too many about Hessen population history. Maybe it is resultant of being on the edge of Lower Saxony and Rhineland.

[redeyednewt]

Hey LukaszM, I have a question.

Do you think it is just be coincidence that Norb, Grace, and I all got Hesse as our top region inside Germany??

Could your samples there have some British influence or something? I know Frankfurt is like the banking center of Germany, I am sure there are a lot of Brits there

You're thinking way too modern. Keep in mind that the DNA test/report goes back literally 1,000s of years and that a lot of Europeans will have an ancestry from different regions of Europe or different modern day countries, and that people did not stay within the confines of the borders of what are now European countries, and migrated a lot.

[redeyednewt]

How interesting. You appear to be quite Frankish

Me? Or the original poster? I just saw how he is banned, so I'm not sure why or how that happened?

[Lucas]

Me? Or the original poster? I just saw how he is banned, so I'm not sure why or how that happened?

His last post was insult to other user, so maybe this?

[Imperator Biff]

Highly recommend this test as it’s way better than anything on gedmatch atm.

[Imperator Biff]

Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation: 1 Scotland @ 6,295542
2 Northern_Ireland @ 6,312957
3 Ireland @ 6,441006
4 Wales @ 6,732219
5 Cumbria @ 7,094497
6 Orkney @ 7,356828
7 England_North-West @ 7,985616 8 England_South-West @ 8,425446 9 England_North-East @ 8,745494 10 Dutch_Overijssel @ 9,296667 500 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Northern_Ireland+Ireland @ 5,892013
2 Scotland+Northern_Ireland @ 5,893148 3 Scotland+Ireland @ 5,991241
4 Cumbria+Ireland @ 6,029267
5 Scotland+Cumbria @ 6,077286
6 Wales+Scotland @ 6,200074
7 Wales+Ireland @ 6,237556
8 Niedersachsen+Ireland @ 6,263766
9 Scotland+Scotland @ 6,295542
10 Wales+Northern_Ireland @ 6,298651 125250 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ireland +25% Dutch_Drenthe +25% Cumbria @ 5,364332
2 50% Ireland +25% Dutch_Drenthe +25% Ireland @ 5,415591
3 50% Ireland +25% Dutch_Drenthe +25% Northern_Ireland @ 5,453712
4 50% Ireland +25% Dutch_Drenthe +25% Scotland @ 5,488793
5 50% Ireland +25% Niedersachsen +25% Northern_Ireland @ 5,59467
6 50% Ireland +25% Niedersachsen +25% Cumbria @ 5,602596
7 50% Ireland +25% Dutch_Friesland +25% Cumbria @ 5,622249
8 50% Ireland +25% Schleswig-Holstein +25% Northern_Ireland @ 5,637097 9 50% Ireland +25% Schleswig-Holstein +25% Ireland @ 5,645904
10 50% Ireland +25% Nordrhein-Westfalen +25% Ireland @ 5,679692 38749739 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Dutch_Drenthe+Cumbria+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,364332
2 Dutch_Drenthe+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,415591
3 Dutch_Drenthe+Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,453712
4 Dutch_Drenthe+Scotland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,488793
5 Dutch_Drenthe+Scotland+Cumbria+Ireland @ 5,578308
6 Niedersachsen+Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,59467
7 Niedersachsen+Cumbria+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,602596
8 Dutch_Friesland+Cumbria+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,622249
9 Schleswig-Holstein+Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,637097
10 Schleswig-Holstein+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,645904
11 Dutch_Drenthe+Scotland+Northern_Ireland+Ireland @ 5,651765
12 Dutch_Drenthe+Northern_Ireland+Cumbria+Ireland @ 5,672964
13 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,679692
14 Dutch_Friesland+Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,691857
15 Schleswig-Holstein+Cumbria+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,699726
16 Dutch_Drenthe+England_South-West+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,705496
17 Dutch_Overijssel+Northern_Ireland+Northern_Ireland +Ireland @ 5,708321 18 Niedersachsen+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,71066
19 Dutch_Overijssel+Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,723077
20 Dutch_Drenthe+Wales+Ireland+Ireland @ 5,734373
460729297 iterations.

Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062
Using 1 population approximation: 1 Cumbria @ 3,162134
2 Ireland @ 3,270448
3 Wales @ 3,32878
4 England_North-West @ 3,546969 5 Scotland @ 3,548648
6 Northern_Ireland @ 3,569674
7 Niedersachsen @ 3,619247
8 England_North-East @ 3,684122 9 England_South-East @ 3,733422 10 Orkney @ 3,758841
500 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation: 1 Cumbria+Cumbria @ 3,162134
2 Cumbria+Ireland @ 3,191456
3 Wales+Cumbria @ 3,257807
4 Niedersachsen+Cumbria @ 3,265752 5 Ireland+Ireland @ 3,270448
6 Cumbria+Iceland @ 3,284634
7 Cumbria+SV_Skane @ 3,291643
8 Northern_Ireland+Cumbria @ 3,314555
9 Cumbria+England_South-West @ 3,32288 10 Cumbria+England_North-East @ 3,3247 125250 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cumbria +25% Niedersachsen +25% Cumbria @ 3,190299
2 50% Cumbria +25% Ireland +25% Ireland @ 3,191456
3 50% Cumbria +25% Ireland +25% Iceland @ 3,205761
4 50% Cumbria +25% Iceland +25% FR_Brittany @ 3,216446
5 50% Cumbria +25% Wales +25% Cumbria @ 3,216817
6 50% Cumbria +25% Ireland +25% SV_Skane @ 3,217635
7 50% Cumbria +25% SV_Skane +25% FR_Brittany @ 3,233267
8 50% Cumbria +25% Niedersachsen +25% Ireland @ 3,235129
9 50% Cumbria +25% Northern_Ireland +25% Cumbria @ 3,241031 10 50% Cumbria +25% Wales +25% Ireland @ 3,244045
20212989 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ireland+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,270448
2 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Cumbria+Cumbria+Cumbria @ 3,289713
3 Wales+Wales+Wales+Cumbria @ 3,29634
4 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Cumbria+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,297721
5 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Cumbria+Cumbria+Ireland @ 3,298084
6 England_North-West+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,299985
7 Wales+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,302186
8 Ireland+Ireland+Ireland+FR_Brittany @ 3,304243
9 Niedersachsen+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,306533
10 Ireland+Ireland+Iceland+FR_Brittany @ 3,308243
11 Niedersachsen+Ireland+Ireland+FR_Brittany @ 3,308779
12 Ireland+Ireland+Ireland+Iceland @ 3,316385
13 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,316484
14 Niedersachsen+Wales+Wales+Cumbria @ 3,316715
15 Northern_Ireland+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,321924
16 Niedersachsen+SV_Skane+SV_Skane+FR_Basque @ 3,324617
17 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Cumbria+Ireland+FR_Brittany @ 3,327152 18 Scotland+Ireland+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,327848
19 Wales+Wales+Ireland+Ireland @ 3,328089
20 Nordrhein-Westfalen+Cumbria+Cumbria+FR_Brittany @ 3,328148 95175558 iterations.

Well worth 7 shekels. Thanks again Lukasz.