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    Default Would England be better off without Scotland?

    It seems that everything the English want to do, e.g. leave the EU, the Scots try and prevent. And in return, the English are expected to subsidise them. Should we put an end to this fractious union, that neither side really wanted in the first place?

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    Better a thorn in your side than an enemy on the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggerman View Post
    Better a thorn in your side than an enemy on the border.
    Unfortunately, we seem to have both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Unfortunately, we seem to have both.
    That particular thorn may be painful but they help remind us all who we are, where we are, how we got here and why we don't need another "Norman" invasion".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggerman View Post
    That particular thorn may be painful but they help remind us all who we are, where we are, how we got here and why we don't need another "Norman" invasion".
    Since the EU represents the latest "Norman invasion" and the Scots are very pro-EU, they are the ones facilitating our continued subservience to it.

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    It's England forcing us out of the EU against our will not the other way round, whatever England wants England gets no exceptions. As for subsidising us, the UK is £1.78 trillion in debt, it can't even subsidise itself nevermind Scotland.

    If you take oil and the Scottish food and drink sector out of UK exports what does England actually have to export that you can't get elsewhere? I mean Scotch whisky alone accounts for over 20% of UK food and drink exports and 98% of the oil is in Scottish waters.

    I seriously think England is in for a wake up call come independence day, if Scotland is such a drain on the poor downtrodden English taxpayer then why are your politicians so desperate to keep us in the UK?

    http://fortune.com/2014/09/17/scotland-uk-independence/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggerman View Post
    Better a thorn in your side than an enemy on the border.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggerman View Post
    Better a thorn in your side than an enemy on the border.
    nonsense, an independent Scotland wouldn't be England's enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albannach View Post
    nonsense, an independent Scotland wouldn't be England's enemy.
    An island nation is a fortress. Create a border and who knows when you'll find yourself threatened. No one can foresee the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggerman View Post
    An island nation is a fortress. Create a border and who knows when you'll find yourself threatened. No one can foresee the future.
    No thanks, as far as I am concerned Britain/UK or whatever you want to call it is just a pseudonym for greater England, the UK is not fit for purpose when one nation (England) has all the power, as it stands without independence or even a federal UK democracy is all but dead in Scotland.

    And as for all this Island fortress nonsense and threats, I am going to guess that while you are against Scottish independence and creating borders you're all for the borders that will be created by Brexit?

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