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    Default Religion, Education and IQ in USA

    Highest education (4 years or more)

    69% Hindu
    65% Unitarian Universalist
    61% Jewish
    52% Episcopalians
    48% Presbyterians
    42% Atheists
    42% Agnostics
    39% White Catholics
    36% White Mainline Protestants
    36% Methodist
    34% Lutheran
    32% Mormons
    31% Religious Unaffiliated
    25% White Evangelicals
    22% Black Protestant
    19% Baptist
    15% Pentecostal
    14% Hispanic Protestant
    12% Hispanic Catholic

    Post Graduate Degrees

    43% Unitarian-Unilateralist
    38% Hindu
    34% Jewish


    Annual Incomes of $100,000 or more

    30% Jews
    25% Hindus
    22% Unitarian Universalist


    source: prri.org



    Mean IQ for whites

    Episcopalian 109.9
    Jews 109.0
    Lutheran 107.4
    Mormon 105.7
    Presbyterian 102.3
    United Methodists 101.8
    Southern Baptists 98.0
    Assembly of God 94.5
    Pentecostal 92.2


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    Average SAT score by religion for 2002, average ~1000, about 40% of each students take it

    Unitarian-Universalists 1209
    Judaism 1161
    Quakers 1153
    Hinduism 1110
    Mennonite 1097
    Reformed Church of America 1097
    Episcopal 1096
    Evangelical Lutheran Church 1094
    Presbyterian Church (USA) 1092
    Baha'i 1073

    source: https://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/10/...ews-on-iq.html

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    Just goes to show, "intelligence" is often a stumbling block for people to get to know God, and for good reason. And often has to do with pride... people think they are so smart, and that they can figure out everything for themselves. But God is not in the business of trying to impress people. He doesn't need to.


    1 Corinthians 1:26-29

    Brothers, consider the time of your calling: Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were powerful; not many were of noble birth. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast in His presence


    Even so, it is also notable that many of the most intelligent people in history were Christians, like Isaac Newton. In these wicked days, there is academic pressure on people who think they are smart, to deny God.
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    A mentally retarded original post .

    1.) This is not 70 or 80 years ago where schools still taught critical thinking skills but now schools teach 'facts' as if they were handed down by 'God'. This should naturally turn off smart people. Americans think one should go to college merely to get a better job but if college makes you think too much then it is bad.

    2.) IQ is pseudo-science :


    Commenting on the significance of the “intelligence” test, Rose (1999: 143) states that :

    The technique of the test was the most important contribution of the psychological sciences to the human technologies of the first half of the twentieth century. The test routinizes the complex ensemble of social judgement on individual variability into an automatic device that makes difference visible and notable.


    Thus, the intelligence test can be seen as a moral technology used specifically for the social judgement of school children by psychologists under the guise of “science” (also see Roberts 2015: 12–13).


    Rose (1999: 142, emphasis added) notes, "Binet’s test used criteria that were directly educational and behavioural. They were direct assessments of the degree of adaptation of individual children to the expectation that others had of them.” The key to the success of Binet’s test was not the ability to accurately measure “intelligence”—which he felt was impossible to predict through such time-restricted tests—but its administrative usefulness in identifying problematic individuals (Rose 1999: 142).

    ---->Cohen, B (2016) Psychiatric Hegemony : A Marxist Theory of Mental Illness. Palgrave-Macmillan.

    ---->Rose, N. (1999) Governing the Soul: The Shaping of the Private Self (2nd ed.). London: Free Association Books.

    ---->Roberts, R. (2015) Psychology and Capitalism: The Manipulation of Mind. Alresford: Zero Books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    A mentally retarded original post .

    1.) This is not 70 or 80 years ago where schools still taught critical thinking skills but now schools teach 'facts' as if they were handed down by 'God'. This should naturally turn off smart people. Americans think one should go to college merely to get a better job but if college makes you think too much then it is bad.

    2.) IQ is pseudo-science :


    Commenting on the significance of the “intelligence” test, Rose (1999: 143) states that :

    The technique of the test was the most important contribution of the psychological sciences to the human technologies of the first half of the twentieth century. The test routinizes the complex ensemble of social judgement on individual variability into an automatic device that makes difference visible and notable.


    Thus, the intelligence test can be seen as a moral technology used specifically for the social judgement of school children by psychologists under the guise of “science” (also see Roberts 2015: 12–13).


    Rose (1999: 142, emphasis added) notes, "Binet’s test used criteria that were directly educational and behavioural. They were direct assessments of the degree of adaptation of individual children to the expectation that others had of them.” The key to the success of Binet’s test was not the ability to accurately measure “intelligence”—which he felt was impossible to predict through such time-restricted tests—but its administrative usefulness in identifying problematic individuals (Rose 1999: 142).

    ---->Cohen, B (2016) Psychiatric Hegemony : A Marxist Theory of Mental Illness. Palgrave-Macmillan.

    ---->Rose, N. (1999) Governing the Soul: The Shaping of the Private Self (2nd ed.). London: Free Association Books.

    ---->Roberts, R. (2015) Psychology and Capitalism: The Manipulation of Mind. Alresford: Zero Books.
    I scored like 85 on the IQ test and I told the scumbag giving the the test "this shit if fucking bogus man, fuck this test".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zlatan View Post
    I scored like 85 on the IQ test and I told the scumbag giving the the test "this shit if fucking bogus man, fuck this test".
    Ok, man, that is kind of interesting but is merely anecdotal. Anyway, Steve Sailor is a right wing 'thinker' the original post linked to his blog and there were it seems there were zero books referenced and the OP referenced 0 books. I referenced 3 or so and Rose's book is considered seminal in the field or at least very influential in the field. The OP and Steve are anti-intellectuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Ok, man, that is kind of interesting but is merely anecdotal. Anyway, Steve Sailor is a right wing 'thinker' the original post linked to his blog and there were it seems there were zero books referenced and the OP referenced 0 books. I referenced 3 or so and Rose's book is considered seminal in the field or at least very influential in the field. The OP and Steve are anti-intellectuals.
    Rose is a sociologist. Sociology is the bottom of the barrel of academia.

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