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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Your mother is beautiful and so are your sisters. Thanks for the information on Afghanistan. So Pashtuns are more Afghan?
    Pashtuns are originally from Afghanistan, yes. The only reason there are Pashtuns in Pakistan is because part of Pakistan's land was originally part of Afghanistan and Iran that got partitioned to them in the Durannid Line agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Just ancient admixture that is present in all Europeans just like non-Europeans get some European admixture. When you think about it places like Ireland got most of their genetics from the Bell Beakers who only arrived about 4,000 years ago. Not very long at all in the scheme of things.
    Do Finns have those same ... they have been quite heavily isolated population from rest of Europeans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What part of Ireland is that result from?
    Mostly Ulster and Leinster.

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    Relative that resides in West Cork with a long family history in the area. Very high North_Atlantic score. AncestryDNA had her as 100% Irish.

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 55.94
    2 Baltic 19.42
    3 West_Med 12.54
    4 West_Asian 7.65
    5 South_Asian 1.64
    6 East_Med 1.61
    7 Siberian 1.05
    8 East_Asian 0.14
    9 Oceanian 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_Scottish 4.84
    2 Irish 5.64
    3 Southwest_English 5.67
    4 Orcadian 6.57
    5 Southeast_English 7.36
    6 North_Dutch 8.38
    7 Danish 8.78
    8 Norwegian 9.74
    9 North_German 10.9
    10 South_Dutch 11.82
    11 Swedish 12.81
    12 West_German 13.14
    13 French 15.66
    14 North_Swedish 19.14
    15 Austrian 19.7
    16 East_German 20.28
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 21.48
    18 Southwest_French 22.41
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 22.65
    20 Spanish_Cantabria 22.74

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.1% West_Scottish + 6.9% French_Basque @ 4.48
    2 96.3% West_Scottish + 3.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.75
    3 97.6% West_Scottish + 2.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.8
    4 97.5% West_Scottish + 2.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.8
    5 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Brahui @ 4.8
    6 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Balochi @ 4.8
    7 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Makrani @ 4.81
    8 98.1% West_Scottish + 1.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.82
    9 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Ossetian @ 4.82
    10 99.4% West_Scottish + 0.6% Abhkasian @ 4.82
    11 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.82
    12 99.5% West_Scottish + 0.5% Sindhi @ 4.82
    13 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.82
    14 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.82
    15 99.5% West_Scottish + 0.5% Georgian @ 4.83
    16 91.4% West_Scottish + 8.6% Southwest_English @ 4.83
    17 99% West_Scottish + 1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.83
    18 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.83
    19 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Armenian @ 4.83
    20 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.83


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% West_Scottish +50% West_Scottish @ 5.432940


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 5.432940


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.432940
    2 Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.477412
    3 Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.629208
    4 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.659481
    5 Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.667974
    6 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.841831
    7 Irish + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.842047
    8 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.872918
    9 Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.908069
    10 Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.952630
    11 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.971869
    12 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.974116
    13 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 6.042156
    14 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 6.069712
    15 Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.099816
    16 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 6.099835
    17 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.117321
    18 Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.139158
    19 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 6.148179
    20 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 6.165686
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Relative that resides in West Cork with a long family history in the area. Very high North_Atlantic score. AncestryDNA had her as 100% Irish.

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 55.94
    2 Baltic 19.42
    3 West_Med 12.54
    4 West_Asian 7.65
    5 South_Asian 1.64
    6 East_Med 1.61
    7 Siberian 1.05
    8 East_Asian 0.14
    9 Oceanian 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_Scottish 4.84
    2 Irish 5.64
    3 Southwest_English 5.67
    4 Orcadian 6.57
    5 Southeast_English 7.36
    6 North_Dutch 8.38
    7 Danish 8.78
    8 Norwegian 9.74
    9 North_German 10.9
    10 South_Dutch 11.82
    11 Swedish 12.81
    12 West_German 13.14
    13 French 15.66
    14 North_Swedish 19.14
    15 Austrian 19.7
    16 East_German 20.28
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 21.48
    18 Southwest_French 22.41
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 22.65
    20 Spanish_Cantabria 22.74

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.1% West_Scottish + 6.9% French_Basque @ 4.48
    2 96.3% West_Scottish + 3.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.75
    3 97.6% West_Scottish + 2.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.8
    4 97.5% West_Scottish + 2.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.8
    5 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Brahui @ 4.8
    6 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Balochi @ 4.8
    7 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Makrani @ 4.81
    8 98.1% West_Scottish + 1.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.82
    9 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Ossetian @ 4.82
    10 99.4% West_Scottish + 0.6% Abhkasian @ 4.82
    11 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.82
    12 99.5% West_Scottish + 0.5% Sindhi @ 4.82
    13 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.82
    14 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.82
    15 99.5% West_Scottish + 0.5% Georgian @ 4.83
    16 91.4% West_Scottish + 8.6% Southwest_English @ 4.83
    17 99% West_Scottish + 1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.83
    18 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.83
    19 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Armenian @ 4.83
    20 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.83


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% West_Scottish +50% West_Scottish @ 5.432940


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 5.432940


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.432940
    2 Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.477412
    3 Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.629208
    4 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.659481
    5 Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.667974
    6 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.841831
    7 Irish + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.842047
    8 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.872918
    9 Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.908069
    10 Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.952630
    11 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.971869
    12 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.974116
    13 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 6.042156
    14 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 6.069712
    15 Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.099816
    16 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 6.099835
    17 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.117321
    18 Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.139158
    19 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 6.148179
    20 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 6.165686
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Relative that resides in West Cork with a long family history in the area. Very high North_Atlantic score. AncestryDNA had her as 100% Irish.

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 55.94
    Dude, what is the difference between :

    North_Atlantic : North Sea (37%) +Atlantic (23%) versus North_Atlantic : North_Sea (23%) + Atlantic( 37%) on K13 ? Here is a HINT : NOTHING !

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    I don't want to be rude, but why do they (almost everyone) have this much South-Asian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris596 View Post
    I don't want to be rude, but why do they (almost everyone) have this much South-Asian?
    Steppe

    Eurogenes reads a lot of Iran_Neolithic/Caucasus as South Asian

    NWesterners score a lot of Gedrosian on other calculators and are also one of the most steppe-heavy Europeans.

    could be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris596 View Post
    I don't want to be rude, but why do they (almost everyone) have this much South-Asian?
    I get 0.06 South Asian. I think it's most probably across many European populations. It's like how some people get Amerindian and some don't.

    Population
    North_Atlantic 51.79 Pct
    Baltic 25.50 Pct
    West_Med 10.04 Pct
    West_Asian 7.39 Pct
    East_Med 1.64 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.40 Pct
    South_Asian 0.06 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.89 Pct
    Amerindian 1.14 Pct
    Oceanian 0.16 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 51.79
    2 Baltic 25.50
    3 West_Med 10.04
    4 West_Asian 7.39
    5 East_Med 1.64
    6 Red_Sea 1.40
    7 Amerindian 1.14


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_Dutch @ 3.154021
    2 Irish @ 3.345129
    3 Norwegian @ 3.812990
    4 West_Scottish @ 4.097712
    5 Danish @ 4.117771
    6 Orcadian @ 4.137623
    7 North_German @ 5.934482
    8 Southeast_English @ 6.821009
    9 Southwest_English @ 6.871243
    10 Swedish @ 7.048795
    11 South_Dutch @ 11.471940
    12 West_German @ 12.510398
    13 North_Swedish @ 14.226061
    14 Austrian @ 17.256870
    15 East_German @ 17.369667
    16 French @ 17.988453
    17 Hungarian @ 22.274704
    18 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.591816
    19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 26.240318
    20 Southwest_French @ 27.212023

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.313866


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.313866


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
    1 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.313866
    2 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.350944
    3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.361537
    4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.420816
    5 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.458922
    6 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.463301
    7 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.464289
    8 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.502304
    9 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.505573
    10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.526197
    11 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.532473
    12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.536980
    13 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.551383
    14 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.551536
    15 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.555050
    16 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.571008
    17 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.577441
    18 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.593716
    19 Irish + North_Dutch + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.626417
    20 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 2.632035

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I get 0.06 South Asian. I think it's most probably across many European populations. It's like how some people get Amerindian and some don't.

    Population
    North_Atlantic 51.79 Pct
    Baltic 25.50 Pct
    West_Med 10.04 Pct
    West_Asian 7.39 Pct
    East_Med 1.64 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.40 Pct
    South_Asian 0.06 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.89 Pct
    Amerindian 1.14 Pct
    Oceanian 0.16 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 51.79
    2 Baltic 25.50
    3 West_Med 10.04
    4 West_Asian 7.39
    5 East_Med 1.64
    6 Red_Sea 1.40
    7 Amerindian 1.14


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_Dutch @ 3.154021
    2 Irish @ 3.345129
    3 Norwegian @ 3.812990
    4 West_Scottish @ 4.097712
    5 Danish @ 4.117771
    6 Orcadian @ 4.137623
    7 North_German @ 5.934482
    8 Southeast_English @ 6.821009
    9 Southwest_English @ 6.871243
    10 Swedish @ 7.048795
    11 South_Dutch @ 11.471940
    12 West_German @ 12.510398
    13 North_Swedish @ 14.226061
    14 Austrian @ 17.256870
    15 East_German @ 17.369667
    16 French @ 17.988453
    17 Hungarian @ 22.274704
    18 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.591816
    19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 26.240318
    20 Southwest_French @ 27.212023

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.313866


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.313866


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
    1 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.313866
    2 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.350944
    3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.361537
    4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.420816
    5 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.458922
    6 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.463301
    7 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.464289
    8 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.502304
    9 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.505573
    10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.526197
    11 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.532473
    12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.536980
    13 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.551383
    14 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.551536
    15 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.555050
    16 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.571008
    17 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.577441
    18 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.593716
    19 Irish + North_Dutch + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.626417
    20 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 2.632035
    What's your Gedrosian on Dodecad12b? I think Nwesterners score a lot because of heavy Steppe-influence

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