New Irish GEDMatch results on Eurogenes K13:

[oszkar07]

They're Northwestern European with 10% Non-European(West Asian, South Asian, Red Sea). It doesn't matter while they're 100% White.

And where the non-European components come from?

True, even one of them gets 1. something south asian , one thing thats consistant with all the above kits is they dont really get much East Med, none get more than max 2 or 3 %, comparitively as a Half Hungarian half Brit I get 8.99 % East Med.

[Sikeliot]

WE WUZ ANGLOZ N SHIETT

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.24
2 Baltic 20.98
3 West_Med 15.40
4 West_Asian 6.89
5 South_Asian 1.39
6 East_Med 1.29


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.009531
2 West_Scottish @ 4.331005
3 Irish @ 4.410344
4 Orcadian @ 5.108810
5 Southeast_English @ 5.548838
6 North_Dutch @ 7.605917
7 Danish @ 8.275025
8 Norwegian @ 9.630879
9 South_Dutch @ 10.048216
10 North_German @ 10.100066
11 West_German @ 11.786963
12 Swedish @ 12.575728
13 French @ 14.689008
14 Austrian @ 18.902933
15 East_German @ 19.401115
16 North_Swedish @ 19.564892
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.514776
18 Southwest_French @ 21.770809
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.472088
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.801083

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.953122
2 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.009531
3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.010168
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.221555
5 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.221643
6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.274117
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.279593
8 French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.314209
9 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.375575
10 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.385579
11 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.392059
12 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.419992
13 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.449534
14 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.455533
15 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.467407
16 Danish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.483258
17 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.487886
18 French_Basque + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.488465
19 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.496135
20 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.507418

What part of Ireland is this result from?

[Sikeliot]

WE WUZ ANGLOZ N SHIETT

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.24
2 Baltic 20.98
3 West_Med 15.40
4 West_Asian 6.89
5 South_Asian 1.39
6 East_Med 1.29


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.009531
2 West_Scottish @ 4.331005
3 Irish @ 4.410344
4 Orcadian @ 5.108810
5 Southeast_English @ 5.548838
6 North_Dutch @ 7.605917
7 Danish @ 8.275025
8 Norwegian @ 9.630879
9 South_Dutch @ 10.048216
10 North_German @ 10.100066
11 West_German @ 11.786963
12 Swedish @ 12.575728
13 French @ 14.689008
14 Austrian @ 18.902933
15 East_German @ 19.401115
16 North_Swedish @ 19.564892
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.514776
18 Southwest_French @ 21.770809
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.472088
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.801083

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.953122
2 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.009531
3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.010168
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.221555
5 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.221643
6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.274117
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.279593
8 French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.314209
9 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.375575
10 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.385579
11 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.392059
12 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.419992
13 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.449534
14 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.455533
15 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.467407
16 Danish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.483258
17 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.487886
18 French_Basque + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.488465
19 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.496135
20 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.507418

What part of Ireland is that result from?

[Peterski]

WE WUZ ANGLOZ N SHIETT

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.24
2 Baltic 20.98
3 West_Med 15.40
4 West_Asian 6.89
5 South_Asian 1.39
6 East_Med 1.29


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.009531
2 West_Scottish @ 4.331005
3 Irish @ 4.410344
4 Orcadian @ 5.108810
5 Southeast_English @ 5.548838
6 North_Dutch @ 7.605917
7 Danish @ 8.275025
8 Norwegian @ 9.630879
9 South_Dutch @ 10.048216
10 North_German @ 10.100066
11 West_German @ 11.786963
12 Swedish @ 12.575728
13 French @ 14.689008
14 Austrian @ 18.902933
15 East_German @ 19.401115
16 North_Swedish @ 19.564892
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.514776
18 Southwest_French @ 21.770809
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.472088
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.801083

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.009531


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.953122
2 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.009531
3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.010168
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.221555
5 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.221643
6 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.274117
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.279593
8 French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.314209
9 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.375575
10 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.385579
11 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.392059
12 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.419992
13 French_Basque + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 3.449534
14 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.455533
15 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.467407
16 Danish + French_Basque + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.483258
17 French_Basque + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 3.487886
18 French_Basque + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.488465
19 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.496135
20 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.507418

Southwest English = Cornwall

[celticdragongod]

Southwest English = Cornwall

One of the more Celtic parts of Britain.

[Grace O'Malley]

They're Northwestern European with 10% Non-European(West Asian, South Asian, Red Sea). It doesn't matter while they're 100% White.

And where the non-European components come from?

Just ancient admixture that is present in all Europeans just like non-Europeans get some European admixture. When you think about it places like Ireland got most of their genetics from the Bell Beakers who only arrived about 4,000 years ago. Not very long at all in the scheme of things.

[Peterski]

Just ancient admixture that is present in all Europeans just like non-Europeans get some European admixture. When you think about it places like Ireland got most of their genetics from the Bell Beakers who only arrived about 4,000 years ago. Not very long at all in the scheme of things.

But the Pre-Beaker Neolithic population of Ireland was very similar to Sardinians and Iberians.

A degree of Iberian-like genetic affinity that shows up for Irish people is probably from them.

England (1) has weaker affinity to Neolithic Irish sample, than Ireland (2) and Scotland (3):

[Grace O'Malley]

But the Pre-Beaker Neolithic population of Ireland was very similar to Sardinians and Iberians.

A degree of Iberian-like genetic affinity that shows up for Irish people is probably from them.

England (1) has weaker affinity to Neolithic Irish sample, than Ireland (2) and Scotland (3):

Well of course England would have a weaker affinity. It is an Irish Neolithic genome. If it was an English Neolithic genome it would have more affinity to the English. The Ballynahatty genome would have more affinity to European Farmer populations like Sardinians so it makes sense the hotspots being there and Spain. Those populations have retained more present day European Farmer ancestry. What is interesting is the Ballynahatty genome was of a different farmer population than what the Rathlin's carried.

[Peterski]

The Ballynahatty genome would have more affinity to European Farmer populations like Sardinians so it makes sense the hotspots being there and Spain. Those populations have retained more present day European Farmer ancestry.

Not all European farmers were the same.

For example Hungarian Neolithic has much stronger affinity to Italians and Greeks:

http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/113...600&carousel=1

Hungarian Bronze Age has a weird pattern - look at Ireland, Wales, England, Poland.

Caledonia was not influenced by Hungarian BA, but Wales was.

[Grace O'Malley]

Not all European farmers were the same.

For example Hungarian Neolithic has much stronger affinity to Italians and Greeks:

http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/113...600&carousel=1

Yes I was aware of that. That's why I mentioned that the Ballynahatty was more related to Sardinians. It's quite interesting reading the breakdown in the Rathlin paper. They do touch on some of that.

This diagram from the Rathlin paper is interesting.