View Poll Results: If you HAD to choose, would you rather your country lose its language or its race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    No one is perfect. If we lost any of those we would throw away close to 900 years as a nation and would become something different.
    Sometimes different can be positive too (lead something better)? It does not need to be always .... negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Sometimes different can be positive too (lead something better)? It does not need to be always .... negative.
    I guess so. I answered from a nationalist point of view. Losing one of these things would mean losing an identity, which in our case is quite old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Agree with this. Nobody in their right mind would agree to their country losing any of these.
    No one agrees with losing their language but there are lots of examples in history i.e. the Roman Empire with France, Spain, Portugal. Romanian is a Latin language which I never realised until a few years ago. I'm Irish and have always spoken English but still feel very strongly Irish even though I was raised in Australia. Anyone saying language is the most important factor in identity doesn't understand history. With Irish for example religion became the most important identifier i.e. Irish Catholic over British Protestants but identity goes beyond language and religion. I know this being from a diaspora population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis View Post
    I guess so. I answered from a nationalist point of view. Losing one of these things would mean losing an identity, which in our case is quite old.
    You are polite man (I prefer your style ... refreshing here in TA ... keep that).

    I guess I'm just bad nationalist as I'm not nationalist just to be nationalist. There needs to be more behind/for that.

    Yes. In your case long history support that. On the other hand, the great period is also far behind in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    You are polite man (I prefer your style ... refreshing here in TA ... keep that).

    I guess I'm just bad nationalist as I'm not nationalist just to be nationalist. There needs to be more behind/for that.

    Yes. In your case long history support that. On the other hand, the great period is also far behind in history.
    He is a nice poster. I've always found Portuguese posters very easy to communicate with and Damiăo de Góis is no exception. I remember him as Alex Delarge. Portuguese posters have always been pretty chill. Anyway I like you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Who do you blame Ottomans, Russians?

    You do not love this?

    This is the coat of arms of Soviet Armenia, when Armenia was part of the Soviet Union, but the Soviet Union ceased to exist, so now it does not make much sense to talk about it, there were both good and bad sides.

    Now Russia and Armenia are allies, they are part of the same military-political bloc, and Turkey is an openly hostile country.

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    I think both would be almost equally as bad, and both would have pretty bizarre consequences .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    No one agrees with losing their language but there are lots of examples in history i.e. the Roman Empire with France, Spain, Portugal. Romanian is a Latin language which I never realised until a few years ago. I'm Irish and have always spoken English but still feel very strongly Irish even though I was raised in Australia. Anyone saying language is the most important factor in identity doesn't understand history. With Irish for example religion became the most important identifier i.e. Irish Catholic over British Protestants but identity goes beyond language and religion. I know this being from a diaspora population.
    Never denied that. Culture, history, traditions and values, common past and present are the most important things, in my opinion.
    Yet I don't think that OP question actually is a fair choice.
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    Well, both are closely intertwined in contributing to the formation of a shared national identity, but the language is more important. Like, the average Portuguese and Spanish person are pretty indistinguishable from each other based solely on appearance, but what truly separates us is culture. If you lose the language you lose the culture, and the nation morphs into something foreign and new.

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