Xiongnu DNA

[Sora]

Here is a Hunnic (Xiongnu) sample from Khövsgöl, Mongolia who lived approximately 2200 years ago. His Y-DNA is: R-PH200 and MtDNA is G3a3







Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bashkir @ 15,567593
2 Karakalpak @ 17,421677
3 Uyghur @ 21,047684
4 Uzbek @ 21,086003
5 Hazara @ 22,15717
6 Kazakh @ 22,534892
7 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 24,857547
8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 28,295297
9 Altai @ 28,608034
10 Tatar_Kazan @ 29,823601
11 Chuvashs @ 31,218387
12 Tajiks @ 34,033011
13 Mongol_Buryat @ 37,999598
14 Turkmen_Ashgabat @ 38,978026
15 Mongol_Khalka @ 39,307125
16 Tuva @ 40,428864
17 Nogai @ 41,078088
18 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal @ 42,641284
19 Buryat @ 43,231352
20 Turk_Bulgaria @ 43,764101

Another sample is a Hun from the Tianshan (Kyrgyzstan), direct descendants of the Xiongnu, who approximately lived 1600 years ago.

His Y-DNA is E-V22 and MtDNA: N9a9








Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tatar-Siberian_ @ 15.624025
2 Bashkir_ @ 16.151781
3 Turkmen_Afghan_ @ 16.594776
4 Uzbek_ @ 17.881296
5 Karakalpak_ @ 19.484091
6 Tajik_Tajikistan_ @ 19.731037
7 Uygur-Han_ @ 20.149899
8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 20.526114
9 Kazahs_ @ 21.671062
10 Crimean_Tatar_Step_ @ 22.046841
11 Uygur_ @ 22.684078
12 Hazara_ @ 23.722591
13 Kazakh_ @ 24.249681
14 Chuvashs_ @ 24.330004
15 Tatar_ @ 25.712357
16 Tatar_Lithuania_ @ 25.828896
17 Udmurd_ @ 26.434635
18 Tatar-Lithuanian_ @ 26.658192
19 Tatar-Kazan_ @ 27.023262
20 Tajik_Afghan_ @ 27.288195

Bonus:

Here is a sample from the Sarybel kurgans (1000–600 BC) in Altai republic calculated with Dodecad K12b;



Oracle-4 proximity results:

1 Chuvashs_Behar @ 24.595221
2 Uzbeks_Behar @ 26.595039
3 Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 32.050438
4 Uygur_HGDP @ 33.025448
5 Hazara_HGDP @ 33.892971
6 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 37.672382
7 Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 38.991940
8 Altai_Rasmussen @ 39.337231
9 Russian_HGDP @ 40.327847
10 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 40.663506
11 Hungarians_Behar @ 41.718472
12 Russian_Dodecad @ 43.677200
13 German_Dodecad @ 43.773705
14 Romanians_Behar @ 44.431152
15 Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 44.454243
16 Selkup_Rasmussen @ 44.473331
17 Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 44.541073
18 Russian_B_Behar @ 44.700199
19 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 44.847599
20 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 45.879894

Edit: Copied from Quora

[Sora]

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[Sora]

More result of random Xiongnu from Gedmatch:

Xiongnu 1

Her mtDna: D4b2b4

puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 27.97
2 European_HG 21.73
3 Siberian 18.37
4 East_Asian 13.52
5 Beringian 7.72
6 South_Asian 6.36
7 Amerindian 3.33


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Uzbek @ 16.682775
2 Turkmen @ 16.950617
3 Hazara @ 21.082134
4 Nogai @ 25.687479
5 Tajik_Pomiri @ 27.986607
6 Chuvash @ 32.713833
7 Afghan_Pashtun @ 34.955360
8 Burusho @ 35.533001
9 Chechen @ 36.123875
10 Altaian @ 37.561760
11 Turkish_Aydin @ 37.827610
12 Mordovian @ 38.579777
13 Pakistan_Pashtun @ 39.103912
14 Kumyk @ 39.216370
15 Balkar @ 39.512257
16 Lezgin @ 39.632370
17 Adygei @ 39.910057
18 Haryana_Jatt @ 39.930931
19 Turkish @ 40.045609
20 Punjabi_Jatt_Sikh @ 40.625820

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Altaian +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 13.890390


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvash +25% Makrani +25% Mongolian @ 12.810207


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
1 Hazara + Makrani + Russian + Tuvinian @ 12.072941
2 Altaian + Hazara + Makrani + Russian @ 12.095563
3 Altaian + Chuvash + Hazara + Makrani @ 12.160081
4 Chuvash + Makrani + Tuvinian + Uzbek @ 12.224659
5 Brahui + Hazara + Russian + Tuvinian @ 12.367852
6 Chuvash + Hazara + Hazara + Tajik_Pomiri @ 12.382135
7 Hazara + Lithuanian + Makrani + Tuvinian @ 12.385599
8 Altaian + Brahui + Hazara + Russian @ 12.403799
9 Altaian + Chuvash + Makrani + Uzbek @ 12.405453
10 Makrani + Russian + Turkmen + Tuvinian @ 12.419900
11 Brahui + Lithuanian + Mongolian + Selkup @ 12.430064
12 Estonian + Hazara + Makrani + Tuvinian @ 12.446307
13 Mongolian + Selkup + Tajik_Pomiri + Tajik_Pomiri @ 12.449619
14 Altaian + Chuvash + Makrani + Turkmen @ 12.464595
15 Makrani + Russian + Tuvinian + Uzbek @ 12.465022
16 Hazara + Makrani + Russian + Selkup @ 12.479131
17 Brahui + Estonian + Mongolian + Selkup @ 12.483354
18 Altaian + Brahui + Chuvash + Hazara @ 12.490513
19 Balochi + Hazara + Russian + Tuvinian @ 12.512012
20 Lithuanian + Makrani + Mongolian + Selkup @ 12.512685

Xiongnu 2:

His Y-Dna: O-F4062 mtDna: D4a

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 51.80
2 Siberian 39.42
3 Beringian 2.92
4 Anatolian_NF 2.48
5 Caucasus_HG 1.01


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mongolian @ 14.028235
2 Korean @ 24.021214
3 Japanese @ 26.736029
4 Tuvinian @ 26.852646
5 Altaian @ 29.529242
6 Han_Chinese @ 39.199825
7 Hazara @ 41.276596
8 Dolgan @ 44.665989
9 Yakut @ 44.745747
10 Cambodian @ 47.806240
11 Vietnamese @ 50.271507
12 Turkmen @ 52.010941
13 Uzbek @ 57.276539
14 Selkup @ 59.096870
15 Ami @ 61.701851
16 Nogai @ 67.003624
17 Chuvash @ 72.079185
18 Turkish_Aydin @ 73.718681
19 Somali_Benadiri @ 77.433411
20 Nganasan @ 77.508072

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Vietnamese +50% Yakut @ 4.901121


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Mongolian +25% Mongolian +25% Yakut @ 3.667962


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++
1 Dolgan + Mongolian + Mongolian + Mongolian @ 3.469447
2 Mongolian + Mongolian + Mongolian + Yakut @ 3.667962
3 Altaian + Ami + Han_Chinese + Nganasan @ 3.669290
4 Dolgan + Korean + Mongolian + Mongolian @ 3.762895
5 Ami + Ami + Dolgan + Nganasan @ 3.942334
6 Dolgan + Han_Chinese + Vietnamese + Yakut @ 3.980187
7 Ami + Dolgan + Japanese + Yakut @ 3.989740
8 Han_Chinese + Vietnamese + Yakut + Yakut @ 4.059921
9 Ami + Dolgan + Korean + Yakut @ 4.066396
10 Dolgan + Japanese + Mongolian + Mongolian @ 4.146391
11 Ami + Dolgan + Nganasan + Vietnamese @ 4.149097
12 Mongolian + Mongolian + Nganasan + Vietnamese @ 4.151478
13 Korean + Mongolian + Mongolian + Yakut @ 4.182713
14 Ami + Han_Chinese + Nganasan + Tuvinian @ 4.385416
15 Nganasan + Tuvinian + Vietnamese + Vietnamese @ 4.453436
16 Japanese + Mongolian + Mongolian + Yakut @ 4.457405
17 Han_Chinese + Japanese + Tuvinian + Yakut @ 4.462347
18 Ami + Japanese + Yakut + Yakut @ 4.496941
19 Altaian + Nganasan + Vietnamese + Vietnamese @ 4.546329
20 Dolgan + Han_Chinese + Han_Chinese + Yakut @ 4.629179

[Nurzat]

basically 1/2 Mongolic (Siberian+East Asian), 1/4 Oriental (Caucasian) and 1/4 Northern Euro. I'm very curious how they looked with this cool mix. they probably looked great, imagine the bony face of the Mongolic + Northern Euro CroMagnon and maybe some Nordid in it too and some Oriental genes to harmonize it all

[Sora]

Results of Tian Shan Hunns:

Tianshan Hun 1:

His Y-Dna: R-PH200 mtDna: A16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 26.38
2 European_HG 23.70
3 Siberian 15.97
4 Beringian 11.03
5 East_Asian 8.91
6 Anatolian_NF 5.72
7 South_Asian 5.67
8 Amerindian 2.62


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Uzbek @ 16.873474
2 Turkmen @ 19.211090
3 Nogai @ 22.271940
4 Hazara @ 25.593414
5 Tajik_Pomiri @ 25.724983
6 Chuvash @ 27.984570
7 Chechen @ 32.565590
8 Mordovian @ 32.784214
9 Turkish_Aydin @ 32.865143
10 Afghan_Pashtun @ 34.083046
11 Russian @ 35.310944
12 Kumyk @ 35.785446
13 Balkar @ 36.092701
14 Turkish @ 36.130733
15 Adygei @ 36.417427
16 Burusho @ 36.435982
17 Lezgin @ 36.795055
18 Bulgarian @ 37.637966
19 Croatian @ 37.719421
20 North_Ossetian @ 38.190483

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvash +50% Uzbek @ 13.653758


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvash +25% Hazara +25% Makrani @ 11.722509


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++
1 Chuvash + Eskimo + Tajik_Pomiri + Turkmen @ 9.738883
2 Eskimo + Hazara + Russian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 10.027202
3 Chuvash + Eskimo + Hazara + Tajik_Pomiri @ 10.140605
4 Eskimo + Hazara + Mordovian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 10.221712
5 Eskimo + Finnish + Hazara + Tajik_Pomiri @ 10.237569
6 Eskimo + Russian + Tajik_Pomiri + Turkmen @ 10.270376
7 Eskimo + Mordovian + Tajik_Pomiri + Turkmen @ 10.505673
8 Chuvash + Eskimo + Tajik_Pomiri + Uzbek @ 10.528458
9 Altaian + Brahui + Eskimo + Lithuanian @ 10.532692
10 Altaian + Eskimo + Lithuanian + Makrani @ 10.539102
11 Eskimo + Finnish + Tajik_Pomiri + Turkmen @ 10.549281
12 Altaian + Balochi + Eskimo + Lithuanian @ 10.650575
13 Altaian + Eskimo + Estonian + Makrani @ 10.653335
14 Altaian + Brahui + Eskimo + Estonian @ 10.680694
15 Altaian + Balochi + Eskimo + Estonian @ 10.796961
16 Afghan_Pashtun + Chuvash + Eskimo + Turkmen @ 10.806537
17 Chuvash + Eskimo + Hazara + Lezgin @ 10.815831
18 Altaian + Eskimo + Finnish + Makrani @ 10.826492
19 Altaian + Brahui + Eskimo + Finnish @ 10.864926
20 Eskimo + Hazara + Lithuanian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 10.865458

Tian Shan Hun 2:

His Y-Dna: R-S23592 mtDna: H13a2a

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 36.78
2 European_HG 25.81
3 Siberian 12.59
4 Anatolian_NF 10.66
5 South_Asian 5.35
6 Amerindian 3.29
7 Beringian 3.21
8 Near_East 2.10


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tajik_Pomiri @ 14.185122
2 Nogai @ 17.289164
3 Chechen @ 19.615660
4 Uzbek @ 19.654633
5 Lezgin @ 23.535559
6 Turkmen @ 23.826441
7 Kumyk @ 24.419279
8 Adygei @ 24.661716
9 Balkar @ 25.051382
10 Afghan_Pashtun @ 25.608227
11 Turkish_Aydin @ 26.611664
12 North_Ossetian @ 27.217470
13 Turkish @ 27.752182
14 Mordovian @ 28.905725
15 Chuvash @ 29.906954
16 Kurdish @ 30.240940
17 Bulgarian @ 30.747543
18 Pakistan_Pashtun @ 31.499098
19 Croatian @ 31.656588
20 Iranian @ 32.761395

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvash +50% Makrani @ 9.422823


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvash +25% Lezgin +25% Makrani @ 6.122509


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Belarusian + Lezgin + Makrani + Selkup @ 4.942239
2 Estonian + Lezgin + Makrani + Selkup @ 5.077366
3 Lezgin + Lithuanian + Makrani + Selkup @ 5.091744
4 Belarusian + Brahui + Lezgin + Selkup @ 5.221927
5 Brahui + Lezgin + Lithuanian + Selkup @ 5.241394
6 Abkhasian + Lithuanian + Makrani + Selkup @ 5.283620
7 Brahui + Estonian + Lezgin + Selkup @ 5.300470
8 Balochi + Belarusian + Lezgin + Selkup @ 5.356425
9 Abkhasian + Estonian + Makrani + Selkup @ 5.410917
10 Balochi + Lezgin + Lithuanian + Selkup @ 5.437597
11 Lithuanian + Makrani + North_Ossetian + Selkup @ 5.452978
12 Estonian + Makrani + North_Ossetian + Selkup @ 5.474609
13 Balochi + Estonian + Lezgin + Selkup @ 5.485945
14 Brahui + Lithuanian + North_Ossetian + Selkup @ 5.541008
15 Abkhasian + Brahui + Lithuanian + Selkup @ 5.596601
16 Abkhasian + Balochi + Lithuanian + Selkup @ 5.623179
17 Brahui + Estonian + North_Ossetian + Selkup @ 5.626535
18 Balochi + Lithuanian + North_Ossetian + Selkup @ 5.728304
19 Belarusian + Makrani + North_Ossetian + Selkup @ 5.745872
20 Abkhasian + Brahui + Estonian + Selkup @ 5.779453

[Bosniensis]

Where are Turks in admixture?

No People of Turkey in mixed matches?

What happened to Turan power in Turkey?

[Sora]

basically 1/2 Mongolic (Siberian+East Asian), 1/4 Oriental (Caucasian) and 1/4 Northern Euro. I'm very curious how they looked with this cool mix. they probably looked great, imagine the bony face of the Mongolic + Northern Euro CroMagnon and maybe some Nordid in it too and some Oriental genes to harmonize it all

True! You're obviously right. They can be modelled as 1/2 Mongoloid, 1/4 North European and 1/4 West Asian(Oriental). I think they were beautiful/handsome. Also I read that a Turkish anthropolog (I don't remember her name) said that "All mixed race people are beautiful. There's no such a thing as ugly mixed person."

[Sora]

Where are Turks in admixture?

No People of Turkey in mixed matches?

What happened to Turan power in Turkey?

We're mixture of Central Asian + Anatolian. So, it's normal that we're not in these matches. Also look at this match:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bashkir @ 15,567593
2 Karakalpak @ 17,421677
3 Uyghur @ 21,047684
4 Uzbek @ 21,086003
5 Hazara @ 22,15717
6 Kazakh @ 22,534892
7 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 24,857547
8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 28,295297
9 Altai @ 28,608034
10 Tatar_Kazan @ 29,823601
11 Chuvashs @ 31,218387
12 Tajiks @ 34,033011
13 Mongol_Buryat @ 37,999598
14 Turkmen_Ashgabat @ 38,978026
15 Mongol_Khalka @ 39,307125
16 Tuva @ 40,428864
17 Nogai @ 41,078088
18 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal @ 42,641284
19 Buryat @ 43,231352
20 Turk_Bulgaria @ 43,764101

Your neo-Ottoman dreams fell down

[Lucas]

True! You're obviously right. They can be modelled as 1/2 Mongoloid, 1/4 North European and 1/4 West Asian(Oriental). I think they were beautiful/handsome. Also I read that a Turkish anthropolog (I don't remember her name) said that "All mixed race people are beautiful. There's no such a thing as ugly mixed person."

Nothing beatiful, Such combo has many Central Asians now...

[Sora]

A Tian Shan Hun who scores 7% SSA

His Y-Dna: E-V22, mtDna: N9a9

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 25.38
2 Caucasus_HG 18.49
3 Siberian 17.61
4 Anatolian_NF 8.85
5 East_Asian 7.45
6 Sub-Saharan 7.16
7 Amerindian 5.50
8 Beringian 4.92
9 South_Asian 2.14
10 Near_East 2.01


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Uzbek @ 21.542437
2 Turkmen @ 22.325415
3 Chuvash @ 23.163395
4 Nogai @ 25.679361
5 Hazara @ 27.727831
6 Mordovian @ 29.800577
7 Tajik_Pomiri @ 31.957779
8 Russian @ 32.278725
9 Turkish_Aydin @ 33.195057
10 Croatian @ 34.620369
11 Bulgarian @ 34.962418
12 Hungarian @ 35.793526
13 Finnish @ 35.927723
14 Romanian @ 36.356831
15 Czech @ 36.871292
16 Dutch_South @ 36.929943
17 Chechen @ 37.308105
18 Dutch_North @ 37.622231
19 Belarusian @ 37.739399
20 German_North @ 37.835541

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvash +50% Turkmen @ 12.009977


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chuvash +25% Hazara +25% Somali_Benadiri @ 8.752423


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
1 Hazara + Lithuanian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri @ 8.390833
2 Estonian + Hazara + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri @ 8.449072
3 Estonian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri + Uzbek @ 8.651822
4 Estonian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri + Turkmen @ 8.653232
5 Lithuanian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri + Turkmen @ 8.654345
6 Lithuanian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri + Uzbek @ 8.670973
7 Chuvash + Chuvash + Hazara + Somali_Benadiri @ 8.752423
8 Belarusian + Hazara + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri @ 8.916458
9 Russian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri + Uzbek @ 8.955240
10 Finnish + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri + Uzbek @ 8.981514
11 Nogai + Russian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri @ 8.993238
12 Belarusian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri + Uzbek @ 9.081323
13 Belarusian + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri + Turkmen @ 9.108434
14 Altaian + Chuvash + Mordovian + Somali_Benadiri @ 9.124809
15 Altaian + Chuvash + Chuvash + Somali_Benadiri @ 9.132114
16 Finnish + Nogai + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri @ 9.197803
17 Chuvash + Nogai + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri @ 9.218531
18 Altaian + Chuvash + Russian + Somali_Benadiri @ 9.224834
19 Estonian + Nogai + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri @ 9.240118
20 Finnish + Hazara + Selkup + Somali_Benadiri @ 9.297870