Jesus appears to atheist

**GreentheViper** · 08-09-2018, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop

This suits the discussion well. "Doubting Thomas" taken from KJV of he Gospel of John:

24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...rsion=KJV;NASB

This is clearly biased evidence though. Of course the Bible is going to say this because it is the holy text of the religion.

**Peterski** · 08-09-2018, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by GreentheViper

Why is that arrogant? He's not appeared to me so I can't believe.

"Believe" by definition applies to unproven stuff.

If something is obvious then you don't "believe in it", but "know it".

I do not believe that 2+2=4, I simply know it.

**GreentheViper** · 08-09-2018, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Peterski

"Believe" by definition applies to unproven stuff.

If something is obvious then you don't "believe in it", but "know it".

I do not believe that 2+2=4, I simply know it.

Math is a good tool.

**Loki** · 08-09-2018, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by GreentheViper

This is clearly biased evidence though. Of course the Bible is going to say this because it is the holy text of the religion.

But it's the truth, biased or not. And you are the fool choosing not to believe.

**Thanas Django** · 08-09-2018, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by GreentheViper

Math is a good tool.

Do you believe numbers exist?

**arkas** · 08-09-2018, 12:34 PM

This going to sound crazy, I once thought I saw Jesus. When I was 10, I moved into an old house that once used to be some kind of medical clinic, my bedroom door had a small window above it. One night, I was laying in bed and thought I could see him looking through the window, I freaked out. After than I became very paranoid that he might be watching me, when the thought would come to my mind, I'd be scared to open my eyes and look at that window. When I did open my eyes I'd stare at the window, to make sure he wasn't there.